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stop spreading Satan's lies

Dear webmaster: I urge you to stop spreading Satan's lies to the world. Look around you and see what's happening in the news: it's the Books of Daniel and Revelation coming true before our very eyes! You have no idea what you are doing to yourself and others by perpetuating this junk on your website. You are very lost and the time to get yourself right with your Creator is getting shorter by the day. carmen@therefinersfire.org Carmen

all that have left Christinanity were never truely born again

After reading several stories from here, I have concluded that all that have left Christinanity, were never truely born again anyway. Eighty to ninety precent of the professions for Christ are false professions. Many here don't believe in hell, but if I stood in the middle of the road and didn't believe in trucks, I would still get hit by a truck. So what I believe or not believe in does not change the reality of it. If you put a gun to my head and I laugh at you and tell you I don't believe in bullets. What if there were a slight chance of hell, would you really want to take that chance? If I offered you 10 Million dollars for both of your eyes, would you take it? Why would you put so much value on you eyes which are the windows of the soul, but place no value on the soul itself? For what shall it gain you if you gain the whole world, but loose your own soul? When I was 18, I had only been in church about 3 time my whole 18 year life. I grew up on a farm and one ...

Wow...

You are one very sad, sorry, unhappy person. I really hope that you find something better to do with your time than making fun of Christians. I laughed my butt of as I read your No True Christians article. That was so incoherent in so many ways, it wasn't even funny. But it was very typical of a person who TRIES to use the Bible against itself, despite the fact that they have a very limited knowledge. Anyone can present crap to a group of people who also don't know what they are talking about. Pardon the pun, but you had better pray that there is no God. Could you imagine if you died, and actually were judged. What would you say? Yikes. And by the way...people aren't perfect, and they do make mistakes, people want to follow God's commandments to a tee, but we fail sometimes because we aren't perfect. We can't be perfect... ~John Believer PS - Since Jesus' life focused primarily on living for helping other people, and providing compass...

you were NEVER ever a Christian

One thing is for sure, you were NEVER ever a Christian to begin with. You really need to be saved. This web site doesn't really prove anything, what a waist of time and effort. Maybe you should prey to God with an open heart, I'm sure he will forgive you. You still have time...that's if you're still alive by the time I send this message. Good luck with that bud.

i know that he loves me

I'm a full time christian,living my life in the paths of the lord.Recently i went to church and lerned how to look at the world with spiritual eyes,how to open my heart to all those around,and you know why because i am walking as a lamb of god with the lords love and peace constantly flowing in my spirit and guiding me to not only accomplish all i was set on earth for but to also grow in the spirit.I was a suicidal soul lost in the world influenced by people and always full of depression and hate in my heart beacause of demons that attacked me and trick me........because they do not offer love and peacefulness in life........i attempted to commit suicide,and i realized then how beautiful life truly was,it was a death experience i will never forget because i realized who was my friend,who made me feel good,and who gave me that father loving friendship i always searched for......this was jesus.....ever since ,i died in the flesh and i began to breth once again in the spirit.....now i...

The Virus God Experiment

Imagine for a moment that man was created by Virus God for one purpose. That man was created in order to be host to viruses. Without human hosts viruses would die. Man even got a brain, consciousness, awareness and so on in order to facilitate human interaction thereby facilitating the spread and survival of viruses. Man reproduces itself by means of rather intimate personal relations in order that viruses can find new hosts, new food sources. Even new tiny man/things which are of course good hosts for viruses, not possessing such a great deal of protection against them. Virus God even created a lesser Man God so that man could feel somehow special in the universe, and can even feel boastful enough that THEY were created in God's image and are the highest form of life. This also greatly reduced the possibility that host man would ever even imagine that they were merely created for the sole purpose of viruses. The Man God, at the will of Virus God commands those under hi...

Kill Your God

I came across your site and I just wanted to say bravo! I too have a story of once being a christian for 16 years and after listening to a performance of classical music, I realized there was more spirit in the notes, than I ever felt reading the bible, going to church or praying to the actors of that poorly constructed play called christianity. I felt so strongly in my change that I wrote a diary, collected poems, and eventually, became what one would call a witch; just without the ignorant banter you find in most nature based faiths. My diary became a book, and it has just been published: www.wastelandpress.net/God.html . I didn't post this on your message board because I didn't want you to think it was a sly attempt at advertising :) Thank you though for your work. I wish I had seen your site when I was going through the process of my own spiritual cleansing. In Wisdom, Kurtz rev_messe_noir at yahoo dot com

...never a christian...

I really hope that some of you will email me to explain why you are no longer following Christ. I am still a Christian, and I pray that I never turn away from the faith because if I do that proves that I never was a Christian to begin with(read 1st John). Contact me, and inform me of your views. Please challenge my thoughts. Thank all of you for your time. Kevin King romans10vs9@hotmail.com

What's All the Fuss?

sent in by Michael J Fowler When I was eight, my mother admitted that there was no Santa Claus. So followed the rest of the fairy tales. As I grew older, I noticed that the followers of the "Prince of Peace" seemed to do a lot of killing. I have quietly been an atheist for over forty years. I have been a critical care nurse and a firefighter/paramedic because of my belief that humanity must help itself. In my careers I have had to "feign christianity" to keep my jobs secure. I have read more of the bible than most xtians that I know. After I was seriously injured, we moved to AZ. Ever since the neighbors found out about our (non) beliefs we have been harassed; tires punctured, property vandalized, my son was assaulted at school,etc. We are considering emigration to a country that allows freedom of thought as I am too old, crippled and in pain to fight anymore.

JESUS STILL LOVES YOU

sent in by Philippe Regardless of your beliefs, your hurting, your pain ... Jesus still loves you . Regardless of your upbringing, your stance on morals, money or sex... Jesus still loves you . Regardless of your views, your anger, your hate... Jesus still loves you Deep down you know that and you know you are running away from Him, if Jesus didn't care about you why would he take your sin - all your sin - and hang on the cross for you. If you were the only person on this earth Jesus still would have come down, took your sins on his shoulders and died in your place. You had a better birth than the Son of God and you surely will have a better death - if you were seriously bothered about the Bible and it's teaching you would have re-started your relationship with God by inviting Jesus back into your life and asking God Himself. It's true religion lets us down, church lets us down, the world lets you down and christians let you down - but you know like me that in re...

Something I'd Like to Share

sent in by Ed Babinski Why do so many human beings assume so much in general, and have such difficulty even getting members of their own family to agree with them on trifling matters, yet seek to evangelize the entire world and tell everyone "what's what?" I am convinced that the ability to communicate is an art and takes far more patience and practice than most others. The mere fact that the world is filled with difficulties in communication, and that such difficulty is not necessarily due to "sin," constitutes one more reason why I do not believe "God's Word" determines where everyone goes for eternity. For instance, some conservative Christians argue in favor of hell by calling it “God’s great compliment.” Surely there is some confusion and miscommunication somewhere if you have to use the word "compliment" in such a fashion. If hell is such a “compliment” then what does God do when he wants to “insult” somebody? --------- Gi...

Wife Swap!

Greetings! I am writing in the hopes that someone affiliated with your site might be interested in appearing on a new ABC television series. The show, (which has the rather salacious title of Wife Swap), has two mothers exchange families for 2 weeks, such that both can explore another family’s values and lifestyle, and share their perspective too. It’s a format that has won numerous awards in the UK, and been critically acclaimed on this side of the Atlantic as well. We are always searching for intelligent, opinionated individuals from a diversity of backgrounds. Currently, we are eager to feature a family headed by parents who are raising their children without imposing religious beliefs on them. In a society where non-theistic individuals can be marginalized, participating would provide an opportunity to put a human face to the atheist or humanist perspective. Is there anyway that you might be able to help us find some families? This could be as simple as a message about u...

Jesus is my parachute!

As I have browsed this site and read the 'testimonies' of the uncoverting people here...I notice several things. Most here believe Christianity is a set of rules or guidelines that you live by. Every group of people gathered has expectations of those within the gathering and to not adhere to those expectations means you are somewhat ousted from the group....except in "your" churches where you expected these people to accept you no matter how you presented yourself...people are people and they fail each other. So here is what the truth really is about. Stop meeting the creed and meet God. It's about trusting IN JESUS not about what you can do for God. Stop following people or churches and their dogma's. Jesus said take up your cross and follow me...not Tom, Dick, and Harry. The Bible says you will be presented with the trial of your faith in order to prove to you, not God whether you really have trusted him and have been indwelt by the Holy Spirit. ...

BE AFRAID!

Everyone involved with this site and anyone reading it should be VERY carefull - don't mock God - life is not a joke - you are playing a very dangerous game - your soul is on the line - this site is a trick - think carefully - its in your hands. Anonymous

Is there anything I can do?

Is there anything I can do? The answer to the above question may well be "nothing", but I thought I might ask your opinion since you have "been there". Let me explain. This is not a deconversion story, but I hope you don't mind me posting on this site. I am deeply concerned about my ex boyfriend who has become involved with a charismatic church which seems to be taking over his life. He claims that he is not at all under their spell, that they are all extremely nice and normal people, that he is perfectly rational and just as put off as me by those "christian types". Yet he goes to prayer meetings and church services most days of the week, has admitted that he has recently begun talking in tongues, says that he is experiencing visits by the Holy Spirit, is preparing to be baptised to be born again, and marvels about the church leaders having the gift of revelation (they keep telling him that he is blessed by God, that he is destined to...

Stop meeting the creed and meet God

As I have browsed this site and read the 'testimonies' of the uncoverting people here...I notice several things. Most here believe Christianity is a set of rules or guidelines that you live by. Every group of people gathered has expectations of those within the gathering and to not adhere to those expectations means you are somewhat ousted from the group....except in "your" churches where you expected these people to accept you no matter how you presented yourself...people are people and they fail each other. So here is what the truth really is about. Stop meeting the creed and meet God. It's about trusting IN JESUS not about what you can do for God. Stop following people or churches and their dogma's. Jesus said take up your cross and follow me...not Tom, Dick, and Harry. The Bible says you will be presented with the trial of your faith in order to prove to you, not God whether you really have trusted him and have been indwelt by the Holy Spirit. ...

SATAN IS ALWAYS ABOUT...

Satan is always about in everybody's lives. To see that he has confused so many people at one place is very disappointing. Satan's job in Christian’s lives is to confuse them so that they rethink their decision. I wish all of you would realize what Christ has done for you, died so that you may have life. I am not talking about a boring Sunday service. I am talking about an every day encounter with the God who made the world and you. I can definitely understand where many of you are coming from. Sometimes it feels, as what church teaches is not enough to keep you going. And I would agree it is not, most churches do not teach relationship, they teach religion. Religion is nothing, that is what the Pharisees had in the bible and Jesus did not get along with the Pharisees if you recall. That is all I have to tell you, but before I leave I have one warning for all of you. 1 John 2:19 “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would h...

am i appalled, horrified, disgusted and threatened?

yo, i am a Christian. if i had to say i was any sort of Christian in particular, i would say im pentecostal, even though i attend a uniting church (i also happen to be an aussie) am i appalled, horrified, disgusted and threatened? do i want to tie you up to a pole, cover you with gasoline and throw a match on you? do i feel any form of hatred towards you? the answer is a resounding no! (however, i am rather curious about the cross spinning around over the flames... it's making me dizzy looking at it...) recent posts seem to be from catholics (which means that i automatically question the christian-ness of the person in the first place), or from people with wishy-washy spirituality, who didn't really connect with the whole christian thing. there are others, they just seem to be the ones that stick in my mind. there are certainly many interesting ideas that have been put forward on this site. I would disagree with many of those ideas. I would agree with other...

What is wrong with you people?

First off, what is wrong with you people? Why create a site to destroy the only thing that some people need to get them through the day. I admit, at times I believe that god does not exist, because I am only human, and ignorance is a very strong characteristic, but there has to be more out there besides us, a few other life forms, and a whole lotta space. God, is and should always be your refuge, even if its a cult. He's not asking u to make wallets, or screw lids on jam jars, he's just asking you to have a little faith. The apocalypse, is the inevitable end to this world, even if you like it or not. Because of our ignorance, we shall indeed destroy this earth, be it tomorrow, in a decade, or 200 milleniums. If god is real, his messiah shall return, and grant refuge to those whom have had faith in him, if not, we may all suffer because of our actions. Christianity promotes kindness to thy neighbor, and if everyone were Christian, we would never have to give up this worl...

the devil has to win souls...

People escape from the Bible because its easier to do wrong. Some get mad because a prayer or 2 didnt get answered now they feel as if church is a waist. Worldly things have changed the minds of people what they see they believe and what they cant it must not be real. People of today think going to school is all you need. Thats why the world is the way it is today. Everything is so advanced but you have people scared to open their mail. You got people blowing themselves up. The world is becoming more dangerous than before thats becouse of the gap between God and the people if seperating daily. What sad is that someone will pay for the harsh words that are being said someones grandchildren will have to look back to see what went wrong in thier life and its not what he/she has done but what someone has done before them. Some the devil has so wrapped in his arms that this message is a joke for you. I just have to believe myself that the devil has to win souls as well and everyone isnt ...

Educate yourself about this aspect

I came to your site as a fluke however your site is only making fun of the religion and not educating people on how it doesnt make sence or whats wrong about it. Your points are not supported and anyone who read it would not be the least bit convinced at what you were saying. I dont believe in god in the least yet reading your site made me laugh- 14 year olds I know could make a better argument then you could. Horrible. Christina

You've been deceived!

Most of the testimonies on this website I've read were from people born in Christinity. Just because you were born into Christinity doesn't mean you are a Christian, most of the people were never actually Christians. I've never understood why people could turn down the best religion in the world. Jesus died for us to save us from dying from our sins and all we have to do is accept this. You don't need to go to Church or "act" like a Christian just believe God is God and Jesus died for you to make your dirty heart clean and you can go to Heaven and live in a mansion and walk on street of gold forever, instead of burning in hell forever. George

No Jesus for You!!

Dave: You have to read this article. You may want to link it to the website. http://thecoaststar.com/weekly/2004/07.29.04/invalidate.html Excerpt: The First Holy Communion made by 8-year-old Haley Waldman in April is considered invalid in the eyes of the Roman Catholic Church since the Holy Eucharist she received did not contain any wheat. HA HA! No wheat in the wafer means "No Jesus for You!!" Catholics says the hosts must contain some wheat, which contains gluten.. Haley is allergic to wheat - so no Jesus for her? Guess who made her allergic to wheat? God did that. And since He made her allergic to your communion wafer - no Jesus for her? What's wrong with you that you can't see that? Question: Is her family's money still welcome in your collection basket?

Floods from the Lord?

i'm in cornwall, i'm sure you've seen the news about the floods in boscastle,, the christians down here are having a field day because in boscastle there is a witchcraft musuem , i've never been there so i dont know if it promotes or just records and observes, but, as i say the christians are saying it was the lords revenge to get rid of this, does anyone else agree that if god is so threatened by one little building that destroying lives, houses and other property just sounds like he's throwing his toys out of the pram and having a paddy? simon fake

Rude and Unprofessional

or Certainty vs Conviction Although I am encouraged that there is a website such as this that has so much potential to support those of us departing a certain religion, I am equally discouraged that there is a high level of disrespectful, discourteous and even ignorant content and comment in this website. Atheists, agnostics, etc all live by faith - a foundational belief that what they hold to is right and true. You may want to pretend this is not the case, but that doesn't change this fact. To ridicule, marginalize or in any other way castigate another person for their faith is wrong. Many of us may have been deceived, misled, abused, or simply mindlessly following doctrines and leaders in organized religions, but for 95% of us who have departed from religion, we were not victims - we CHOSE to participate. The same guilt-driven, threatening and condescending rhetoric is present in many of the dialogues and much of the content of this website that is found commo...

No Such Thing

There is no such thing as an ex-Christian. If you thought you were a christian, and now you believe you are an ex-christian, you have missed the doctrine of Christianity. All you are is simply one who thought he was a Christian but now simply is still not a Christina. Being a Christian is not based on anything you do or don't do, not on who you are or were. In other words, you don't become a Christian by doing good deeds. There are probably many pastors/missionaries/teachers/etc who are going to Hell. God promises that He will be faithful to complete what He started. Read the Bible. You give yourself so much credit by claiming that you can become something on your own freewill or deny something that is sovereignly given to a person. Jason

Life without Jesus is meaningless

I came across your website this morning and found it very interesting. I feel sorry for everyone on here who say they have had a bad experience with Christianity. but unfortunately all i have read on here is the testimonies of people who arent truely born again. You see being brought up in a christian family doesn't make you a christian. In the same way Going to McDonalds does not make you a hamburger! I was brought up in a non christian family and was Led to the lord by a friend and since then my life has totally changed! The bible tells us that Jesus came to give life and life to the full and sice he entered my life he has given me all i could ever ask for. but most of all he has given me an assurance that one day i will be with him. Life without Jesus is meaningless and i would encourage you all to really seek him. Because he loves you and died so you could be free God Bless Luke

You are treading on thin ice

I accidently came across your website and was amazed at the amount of time and effort put into such a sad conclusion. Imagine what you could do to help people with the time your spend on this. Although I'm sure your response is you are the one saving people from Jesus instead of Jesus saving them from darkness. It saddens me deeply and all can do is pray that God will soften your heart and the hearts of those who are a part of this. Something painful must have happened to make all of you so hardened and angry. What ever that was, I'm sorry it affected you so strongly. I am very well educated, open minded and thoughtful and I still know that the Jesus of the Bible is real. I grant you the fact that it can be confounding at times, but it makes perfect sense to human nature. Christianity is the only religion that deals with the way people actually are and not how they percieve themselves to be. You are treading on thin ice and I hope you open your eyes and heart before i...

you sure do hate him

Wow! For someone who says he doesn't exist, you sure do hate him so. Why is he the focus of your life? Huh. I think I'd just leave him behind and move on. He showed me a vision the other day. He and I were having a diet coke at a 50's diner. The overwhelming feeling I got was that he really was focused on me and wanted to be with me. At first, I was like, diet coke? That's not what Jesus would want me to drink; it causes cancer. Then, he said to me--that doesn't matter--only you and me matter. Then, the other day when I was taking my daily walk, I had another impression. He confided in me. He was crying and said--"Why don't they believe I love them?" And I said, "It's ok. Don't be upset." Wow! I comforted him this time. Don't blame him. Blame the false teachers of him. He's not a mean man in the sky. He wants to breathe into you life, and then give you a vision of who you were meant to be. Our tiny minds cannot fathom...

I made my decision

I made my decision a long time ago to worship the Lord Jesus Christ. I do not worship the Scriptures. I don't need them to be infallible to know that God is real. Moreover, I do not look to the church for reasons for my faith. Church will always dissappoint! L.

Why do you try to un-convert the Christians?

Here is a question I would like to ask. Why do you try to un-convert the Christians? First off, that makes us as bad as them. Christianity used the same sort of speeches to convert them in the first place. Second, let the people figure things out on their own like they should be able to do. That proves that they willed themselves to change faith and that WE are not being the inconsiderate ones. Another thing is that Atheism is not technically better than Christianity. Different atheist sources just hate Christianity because that is what they were told to do growing up creating the same problem you had with Christianity. Lastly, Converting everyone from Christianity will just make the masses create ANOTHER christianity of some sort. What people practice can change but people will always stay the same, creating new practices. Consider this please because it really makes sense to me. MagnaCougar MagnaCougar at yahoo.com

Experiential Resonance

I read your testimony. I can't tell you how much you and I have in common with respect to our studying numerous books in order to get our questions answered. I started studying Christianity when I was very young with Dave Hunt and Hal Lindsey books. (I was just certain the rapture was going to happen in my lifetime. :) ) Then I moved into apologetics (I was a fierce "defender of the faith"). Then into Calvinism. The postmillenialism. Then preterism. Then this, then that. I studied church history, the languages, just everything I could get my hands on. I really enjoyed reading your testimony of deconversion. It really resonates with my experience, too. Someday when I have the time I'll post my story. Thanks for your site. It really helps me to not feel so lonely. Jason M Indianapolis, IN

WITCH

I was just reading an article someone sent me, how "Disney is Leading Children to Hell" (regarding a new kids show, W.I.T.C.H.) from the waaay fundie "World Net Daily" site. I was amused to find this little gem tucked away in the article. Thought you might appreciate the irony of it also... The article also links to another site (also a hoot) that gives the "facts" about how bad the new show is to christians-- " Satan wants nothing more than for a person's life to be filled with things that appear to have meaning, but in the end have none and keep a person from tasting the truth. He tries to use a world filled with illusions and fantasies … to fill our lives with things that only deceive and bear no fruit." it's so nice when they make our arguments for us!

Dinosaurs in the Bible?

I'm just starting to look through your site, and so far, I'm pretty impressed. It looks like you have a lot of information and it's very professional in lay-out. This is to say, I have a lot of respect for you and your opinions (directly related to the presentation), and I believe that you have a lot of knowledge (more than me) when it comes to the (apparent) problems with Christianity. I say apparent becuase I am indeed a Christian. I do have a huge distrust against the "organized" church, which is anything but. I don't attend church, except rarely, because I believe that much of what gets taught in church is a person's (pastor, etc) own beliefs or retoric or whatnot. I don't know how much energy you now put into this site, but I thought it would be interesting to begin a conversation of sorts with you, if you would be interested. Having grown up within the church and now being a bit outside of it, I have always heard of problems with the B...

Stephen Maguire - nut case.

Stephen Maguire wrote: Believe this YOU WILL DIE SOMEDAY AND YOU CAN'T STOP IT, rationalize that if you can, give me your arguments !!!! YOUR GOING INTO THE GROUND AND THATS THE END, IF YOU HAVE HALF A BRAIN YOU KNOW THATS NOT TRUE. You mean to say all our loved ones we won't see again, PULL THE OTHER ONE THERE BELLS ON IT !!! :-) Stephen Maguire wrote: Hey all you good people your webmaster in his wisdom has blocked me again so can some of you remind those in the EX JW POSTING THAT I HAVEN'T RUN AWAY BUT IN TRUTH THE WEBMASTER HAS BLOCKED ME, MAYBE I HIT A NERVE. He knows i'm a treat to his lies and deceit,and that not all of you but some are in league with the devil, and are pretending to not believe in God, so don't be fooled by him, LONG RUN THE FOX, until it is eventually caught, like Sadam down a spider hole. No offence Sadam just an anology. BYEEEEE !!! stephen Maguire wrote: Hi Dave just dropped in to see how you were doing, not very clever of yo...

I'm sure you are wonderful people.... BUT!

While I completely support your freedom to choose your own path in life, express yourself and your views how you see fit, etc. It's rather profound the amount of hypocricy I have come across just browsing this particular site. There is alot of talk about the extreme persecution and lack of tolerance christians have inflicted on others. Do you yourselves not show a lack of tolerance? Do you yourseleves not persecute christians, catholics, etc. when you hold a standard that you are unable to meet? Not all people who hold religion at the center of their lives are out for world domination, commit mass murders, or out to force themseleves on others. Christians and catholics alike have some disreputable individuals in their history. There are alot pagans who have done some pretty awful things. Does that make all pagans abhorable and likely to do the same? Absolutely not! Should they all be lumped together and labled? Absolutely not! There are some pretty amazing pagans out there that as ...

My wife is now a christian

My wife is now becoming a Christian and I am very bothered by it. Any sugesstions to help me through this trying time? Disco Stu

Leave no man behind

I have been reading through your website off and on during the last few months now - it's a fascinating place. I have a question you may wish to put to your forum. It is one specifically for those who seriously question the very foundation of Christianity. Before I ask, a brief synopsis; Philosophers from Kant to Wittgenstein, Descartes to Russell, have all added their perspectives of religion, some damning others less so. There is a distinctive line in modern philosophy of religion between those who outwardly denounce the plausibility of Christianity or deities at all, and those who occupy themselves with defining the thought processes that lead to this type of conclusion rather than actually concluding. Although not a philosopher, Thomas Paine's literary brilliance culminated in The Age of Reason - a truly masterful piece of writing and argumentation - in which he repeatedly states his respect for those whose opinion may differ from his (a not too surprising fact comin...

Hey Preacher, Leave those kids alone!

Joel Atkinson I have a right to write this. You see, I am an insider...an eye-witness. Critics will say that this is an attack and they will be found correct. For that is precisely what it is. However, it is also a defense. It is indeed both of these things, and, frankly speaking, I do not see a way that the two can be separate, at least not in this instance. Any attack is in truth the most aggressive defense of something very important to you. So let the critics try and try to separate the two. In these writings, at least, the two will be one and the same. An attack on the so-called Church of Christ and a defense of the so-called Lost in the world, for whom the Church of Christ constantly seeks their conversion or destruction, whichever comes first. Let them lie and say they do not seek this. If this is truly what they are saying, then they disavow the very sacred and most perfect book they claim to obey. For throughout that book, the writers instill in the read...

A LIE

I was never a Christian. My father was raised Catholic and my mom Baptist. They got married in a Methodist church and I went to a Lutheran congregation a few times as a child. Even as young as 4, the atmosphere bothered me; The abstract sermons, the rudeness of some children during youth group. The tight dress clothes seemed out of place, why dress up to find out what makes us human? I asked my mother if I could stop going when I was ab out 5, because it was boring and I just had an odd feeling about it. The only other time I went into a church was a week-long Bible study at the same chruch building when I was probably 9. The arts and crafts annoyed me and seemed like busy work. I couldn't grasp the attitudes of the other children. I dropped out after 2 days. My brother conintued to attend, and I got phone calls, postcards and letters from the Pastor for 4 months afterwards. I got very angry at him for not leaving me alone. I never professed Jesus, and always had an interest...

Why can't we Think?

Due to problems with the server, this is the only way I could get a comment in. First, let me say that I am and as far as I can tell always will be a follower of Jesus. I dislike the lable "Christian" because of the stigmas most people in my culture attach to it. In addition to being a Jesus-follower, I am also an adherant of the Gothic subculture, a subculture that does not smile on blind faith. I just wanted to thank the webmaster for his stunning commentary on the lack of intellectual life in the Christian community. Only among Goths, thier sympathizers, a few select Bible college professors have I found total acceptance for my somewhat unorthodox approach and my insistance on good, logical reasons to back beliefs. I may disagree with your conclusions, Dave, but I totally understand the thought process that led you to them. You and your work have as much if my full support as I can give without denying the things I myself believe. -Melanie Fellion, 24,...

Okay - I have NO idea!

My dear brother in Jessus Christ, With this ocasion of Jessus Christ I said to your family with : 1 Corinteni 15.20 „But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept and 1 Corinteni 5.7 For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us, The Lord Jessus bless you all the time with the happy for Ps 41.1-3 Blessed is he that considereth the poor: the LORD will deliver him in time of trouble.2 The LORD will preserve him, and keep him alive; and he shall be blessed upon the earth: and thou wilt not deliver him unto the will of his enemies. 3 The LORD will strengthen him upon the bed of languishing: thou wilt make all his bed in his sickness. I am a brother in Christ. My name is Nica Adrian .I have nine little children [The bigger is school –bag(18 years old) and the younger is 3 years old]. My message sent you is real, I say the truth in Christ, I lie not ,my family have great need of help the Lord Jesus given per your, because I must to pay the rates ...

our addictions were killing us separately

Hello. I have been reading the material on this site now for about a week. And I think it's fascinating. You sir, know your stuff, as far as I can tell. You have obviously searched high and low. And somehow... until a few years ago, I was married to a fundamentalist Christian. And at the time I myself was an active drug addict, so you can imagine the fireworks that sometimes went off in our house. I had lived in England for eight years and had had much difficulty with heroin while living there. I did what many addicts do, what's called a "geographical,” and moved back to America. I tried to straighten up and fly right. I stopped using, I got a real job (I’m a musician), and I got married. She was the prettiest girl I’d ever seen. She was obviously troubled by a lot of things, but then again, so was I. She wasn't Christian then. We were dating and sleeping together. One day I went to work, and by the time I came home, she had gotten a bible out, ...

The Bible says...

I want you to know that no matter how much you've spoken out against God and his word, he loves you more than you'll ever be able to comprehend. The Bible says you were fearfully and wonderfully made, and that neither angel nor demon can separate you from the love of God. Please understand that the church has rarely gotten things right, man has rarely ever reflected the glory of God, but Jesus will never, ever, lead you astray. If you're so confident in your disbelief, then I issue you a challenge: ask God to reveal himself to you if he's real. If you're right, then nothing happens, and you have nothing to worry about. Some of the most powerful men of God in the Bible were those that fell the hardest at first. I promise you that a life lived for the Lord is far more fulfilling and wonderful than any junk this world will ever offer you. Just look at how the world is falling apart at the very seams. The Lord never changes, and his lo...

What's Your Label?

Is your label Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hebrew, Baptist, lawyer, Indian chief, catholic, preacher, priest, pope, drunk, etc, pick one or make one up. All labels are self-claimed. When you come out of your mothers womb there's not any sticker or label or stamp on your body to label you, Just because your mother claims to be Jewish, or Muslim, or whatever does not mean that you're this famous claim that you have taken on yourself. I claim to be a human citizen of the planet earth. I have no label as a person that was put here by no cause of my own. We were all born not because of some God having planned each of us for millions of years, as religious bigots will have you to believe. We (all of us) were put here simply because your father in the heat of passion and lust for your mother, could not, or would not abstain from inseminating your mother. It's as simple as that. All labels and titles are self claimed only, there are no credentials. We have learned, that by being ...

An Ex-Christian is non-existent

Hello. Is God truly the answer? Yes. God created us, brought us here, and allows us to crucify him all over again every time we hurt him. This site gives me pain. It hurts to see non-Christians, but it truly pains me to see people who have turned from the greatest thing that has ever happened to me. An Ex-Christian is non-existent. Once you have invited Christ into your life, He will "not leave you or forsake you." You are going to Heaven. However, if you have the audacity or bitterness to leave, I believe that you were never a Christian in the first place. If you truly were saved by the grace of God, then you would realize that learning of His mercy and grace, and being with Him forever was so addictive that you would never get enough. I can only pray that you will be changed by this message. -Chris, God Follower swat_man_mp5@hotmail.com Romans 1:16 I am not ashamed of the Gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who bel...

deception

Hello, I just want to tell you what a blessing it is to serve our Lord Jesus Christ. I see so hate on this website. There are Hypocrites in all walks of life. That does not make truth a hypocrite. I was angry at God. I wanted to know the truth of things. So I had a open mind about Christianity. It is so historcally accurate. If somebody wants to correspond with me, I could go in detail. Our on selves blind us from the truth because it requries a effort of faith. Let me just say this chaos is opposite of perfect organazition. Well may you search for truth with a open mind and May His grace bless you. Matt Mostelle r

Tired of the Myth

There is no talking snake. The earth is not 6000 years old. Angels are not keeping us safe. No one can be good enough to be Christ like. Even Peter lied about know God when the Romans came for him. Non Christians should not try to imposed their ideas on Christian as Christians feel threatened. The only thing they can say id God loves you and get saved or go to HELL. I can't pretend to Christian. I don't like to be around superstitious people; I don't even have a rabbit's foot. Some Christians in their own time will face reality but most most need the drug. They can be high on God and still get a job and drive a car so it may be better than crack. I don't want to change them the more people who think they will be tormented by a loving God are potentially dangerous and I don't want to piss of that crowd of loons. John Evers jevers at triad.rr.com Became a Christian: 12 or so Ceased being a Christian: 50 Labels before: Baptist /Luthe...

The Man from Neverwas

When you can't honestly say you've been part of something, it becomes a lot easier to leave it behind. I had always been part of a family that, by all accounts, you could call "Chrisitan". My grandmother was probably the most religious of us all, at least for as long as I could remember. My own life had been what those so inclined could call a "miracle": I was three months premature, asthamtic, and would probably have died without a little luck... or a lot. Thus, the idea was firmly implanted in everyone's head: I must have been a miracle, end of story. All through my life, I had been the type who questioned things. Among them, I wondered why a supposedly benevolent god would let bad things happen to those who didn't deserve it, while the horrible people of the world wallowed in ill-gotten wealth, power, and control. It's really hard to pinpoint where the change began, since I'm sure I started to question it somewhere around ...

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN EX-CHRISTIAN!!!

Jesus isn't just some belief we put faith into. He was real, and in the flesh. You, never accepting him or learning from the Bible who he was, doesn't mean you once did accept Him. In order to be an ex at anything, you must first have accepted Him and ALL His Glory. So you read one or two stories and tried to compare it to your life or whatever. Have you seen the PASSION yet? Or is it to much to bear that you won't go see it. The movie came at the perfect time!!! With gay marriages happening in our country, this movie is a wake up call for all humanity. Even the fake believers who now claim they are ex Christians. You never believed in the first place. I see all these pawned off ideas on here and it reminds of Liberals and Utopianism. And we all know what quacks they are. Man uses only 10% of their brain, and in this websites case, we'll say 2%,(and that is stretching it). Well, if God just couldn't make it any easier for you, he allowed ...

we want to believe in a God...

What man can represent a God, or any God? Funny how people can claim they're called by God to preach? Yet they are very willing to accept money for their services. If i were to be called by supposedly the most powerful being in the universe, it would be such a great honor for some God to have picked me, of all people in the world he could have chosen, that no monetary reward would ever sufice the great feeling of singlearity, from whom picked me to represent a God almighty. Why would a God call anyone to represent for God? Also funny how God can call people to scam them out of their money, but cant help a 11 year old girl from being raped and killed in Florida, while her kidnapping was being video taped and recorded by humans. Funny how come God just calls certain people for his own agenda. Why do we let these scoundrels fool us into believing them? Could it be that we want to believe in a God and a heaven so much that we are willing to give up our common sense in order...

Wow,

Not sure what to think about this one. Here I am, surfing the web, checking out blogs and boom - ExChristian.net. And what do you know - I am a Christian. I have read a lot of the articles on your site. Some of which raise some valid questions and some of which are filled with as much nonsense as you claim Christianity contains. I think you would freely admit that. Anyway, I have read your entire testimony and wanted to comment. You mentioned that Christians blame your rejection of Christ on the poor treatment and bad example of other believers. I agree with you that such an assessment misses the mark. I think the reason you became frustrated and felt a need to step away in the first place was that not one of the "churches" you described seemed to be a true church. I am not saying that everyone in those churches were faking it (though you might say the must have been if it is all really a lie). I am saying that the things you experienced from those churches...

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