I was just reading an article someone sent me, how "Disney is Leading Children to Hell" (regarding a new kids show, W.I.T.C.H.) from the waaay fundie "World Net Daily" site. I was amused to find this little gem tucked away in the article. Thought you might appreciate the irony of it also...

The article also links to another site (also a hoot) that gives the "facts" about how bad the new show is to christians--

" Satan wants nothing more than for a person's life to be filled with things that appear to have meaning, but in the end have none and keep a person from tasting the truth. He tries to use a world filled with illusions and fantasies … to fill our lives with things that only deceive and bear no fruit."

it's so nice when they make our arguments for us!

Dinosaurs in the Bible?

I'm just starting to look through your site, and so far, I'm pretty impressed. It looks like you have a lot of information and it's very professional in lay-out. This is to say, I have a lot of respect for you and your opinions (directly related to the presentation), and I believe that you have a lot of knowledge (more than me) when it comes to the (apparent) problems with Christianity.

I say apparent becuase I am indeed a Christian. I do have a huge distrust against the "organized" church, which is anything but. I don't attend church, except rarely, because I believe that much of what gets taught in church is a person's (pastor, etc) own beliefs or retoric or whatnot.

I don't know how much energy you now put into this site, but I thought it would be interesting to begin a conversation of sorts with you, if you would be interested. Having grown up within the church and now being a bit outside of it, I have always heard of problems with the Bible and with Christianity, but I haven't yet had an opportunity to seriously consider what they are. I believe that in order to be a "true" Christian, I must approach my beliefs and faith from a realistic point of view. I do not believe that blind faith is for everyone. Perhaps that might work for some people (there are different backgrounds, cultures, levels of intelligence), but I would like to seriously consider what I have been taught (I don't believe everything a pastor has told me), again, in a realistic and objective manner.

I took your Bible quiz--actually had fun and it made me laugh. I will not respond to all the questions, because, well...if you would like, I can respond. However, I do have a question/thought. More than one person (Sunday-school type setting) told me that the following verses referred to dinosaurs, and that the footnotes were not correct. Truth be told, they do make more sense as dinosaurs, I believe. I won't quote, but: Job 40:15 (brontosaurus, now apatosaurus) and Job 41:1 (though I can't remember which--my elementary knowledge of dinosaurus has greatly diminished).

Please let me know what you think. I'll continue to go through your website. I look forward to hearing from you.

van_essa64 at yahoo.com

Stephen Maguire - nut case.

Stephen Maguire wrote: Believe this YOU WILL DIE SOMEDAY AND YOU CAN'T STOP IT, rationalize that if you can, give me your arguments !!!! YOUR GOING INTO THE GROUND AND THATS THE END, IF YOU HAVE HALF A BRAIN YOU KNOW THATS NOT TRUE.
You mean to say all our loved ones we won't see again, PULL THE OTHER ONE THERE BELLS ON IT !!! :-)

Stephen Maguire wrote: Hey all you good people your webmaster in his wisdom has blocked me again so can some of you remind those in the EX JW POSTING THAT I HAVEN'T RUN AWAY BUT IN TRUTH THE WEBMASTER HAS BLOCKED ME, MAYBE I HIT A NERVE.
He knows i'm a treat to his lies and deceit,and that not all of you but some are in league with the devil, and are pretending to not believe in God, so don't be fooled by him, LONG RUN THE FOX, until it is eventually caught, like Sadam down a spider hole.
No offence Sadam just an anology.

stephen Maguire wrote: Hi Dave just dropped in to see how you were doing, not very clever of you blocking me, if you hadn't done that I would have been gone long ago but now it's personal.

Anyway still selling your corrupt tee-shirts on the web, making loads of money out of ex-christian ???

Your as bad as those corrupt preachers, hows Mandylibra keeping, sorry you suffered so much in your life, I have too but have to get on with it, the only comfort I had when growing up was looking at the King of suffering, and thats why Jesus said that no servant is greater than the master,if the master suffered,then we aren't going to escape it, don't worry I HOPE YOU SEE YOUR UNBORN CHILD AGAIN, OH YES GOD HAS TAKEN CARE OF THOSE UNBORN CHILDREN AS WELL, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD.
I will pray for you and if you like you can e-mail me personally, it's up to you.
Anyway Dave Van the man, nice to speak to you again, sorry people if I DON'T reply to you, but Dave has decided to block me, but I ALWAYS GET THROUGH, he only wants you to hear what what pleases him, thats paramount to Communism, oh well some things never change.

God BLESS you all I shall pray for you

Stephen Maguire wrote: Not a chance of Christanity dying out, we have the word of Jesus on that one, "PETER UPON THIS ROCK I SHALL BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT"

Hey webby still unable to block me, I don't know you are losing it,inspite of me trying to help you out here letting you know i'm on a proxy server.

Oh !!! well just when you thought it was safe to switch on your computer, here comes Stevie boy !!!!

This is fun I like this website, bye Dave you good old ex-Chritian you, have a nice day.
Oh I was thinking of hacking your website and shutting you down, but unlike you I believe in freedom of speech, so decided against it.
Ok bye my good buddies.
Stephen ;)

I'm sure you are wonderful people.... BUT!

While I completely support your freedom to choose your own path in life, express yourself and your views how you see fit, etc. It's rather profound the amount of hypocricy I have come across just browsing this particular site. There is alot of talk about the extreme persecution and lack of tolerance christians have inflicted on others. Do you yourselves not show a lack of tolerance? Do you yourseleves not persecute christians, catholics, etc. when you hold a standard that you are unable to meet? Not all people who hold religion at the center of their lives are out for world domination, commit mass murders, or out to force themseleves on others. Christians and catholics alike have some disreputable individuals in their history. There are alot pagans who have done some pretty awful things. Does that make all pagans abhorable and likely to do the same? Absolutely not! Should they all be lumped together and labled? Absolutely not! There are some pretty amazing pagans out there that as a christian, I am proud to call my friends. We respect each other, don't judge each other for our predecessors shortcomings, and above all accept each other beliefs and all. For some, it is what works for them. Just as being pagan, atheistic, or agnostic works for others. By the way catholocism and christianity are two seperate religions with different systems of beliefs. If you choose to continue to be judgemental, they should be judged seperatley according to the customs they bring forth. Lumping them together would be like saying an atheist and an agnostic are the same. Which by definition would not be an accurate assessment. Again, this is not an attack against your beliefs or you as individuals. I'm sure you are wonderful people. Just be careful that the fingers you point can't be turned around and pointed back at you.


My wife is now a christian

My wife is now becoming a Christian and I am very bothered by it. Any sugesstions to help me through this trying time?

Disco Stu

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