Isn't there another possibility about the nature of God that involves the idea of freedom? If you give people freedom they will not always choose good. If you force them to choose good they are no better than puppets. God is not a puppet-master micro-controlling everything, nor is he a Randall Terry who'd like to instantly strike down every evil-doer. Theoretically speaking, if there is a God who is all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good etc. he's not going to be a narrow-minded hand-wringer nor a vicious dictator. Just because some people believe stupid things about God, History, the Bible, Evolution, etc., (and they certainly do!) doesn't mean that God fits into their narrow concepts. Regards, Alicia

So you say humankind is natural and scientific in base but how do you explain the fact that science cannot explain the big ten yet: 1) Creation of life from chemical elements. 2) Scientists still can not explain how organisms can change from self reproducing to sexually reproducing organisms. 3) Scientists still cannot fully explain how one set of DNA can transform into a brand NEW set of healthy DNA. 4) That evolution is based in organisms growing complex, yet growing complexity doesn't necessarily cause an "evolution" of intelligence. Why did rational mother nature waste all the time/space on the human brain? 5) Our classification of evolution is based on a sparse amount of found bones yet we can only surmise our knowledge of completeness out of the incomplete antique species we can dig out of the ground. 6) Meteors containing life that supposedly struck the earth does nothing to explain the origin of life. 7) Carbon dating is still an ESTIMATE...

Dear Webmaster, I think this website is sick. I am a preacher and I am praying against this and other sites of evil darkness and ask that they are shut down. This site needs to be closed. Open your eyes read Matthew 24 can't you see the truth? The end is near Recieve the Lord again. I am sure your life will be changed. James Adams

Thank you for your web site. I agree totally, raised in a Mormon controlling family full of greed and lies. Thank you for the truth. Religion has caused 99.9% of all the wars death and misery that exist in the world today. The competition for souls, "join my church", "give to this church", "take away from your own family to help god", etc. It is similar to the taxation of government. to govern, a form of slavery to tax, to take away. Other then proper leadership of calibur. (to help grow) of the people by the leadership, not by the people for the government to grow. appropriation of money to the people. for education,for live style choices.not only to the rich or those who have access to it. we have gotten away from our constitution, and municipal religious government has past laws rcw's to put those in jail for drugs and other {moral laws} against the wishes or vote of the people. a burden on which the people should have never been put under. I co...

I have read your $10 challenge and you will have my $10! Unfortunately, I'm skint until the end of the month, but as soon as my cheque clears I'll paypal your share to you. Thats my word. I stumbled on your site quite by accident. I was looking for some jokes and came across one of God's Billboards, in searching for more I found your take on them. Your site looks pretty huge, I've only looked at a few of the pages including your own testimony - wow! The Church has abused you mightily. I assume from the nature of your site that you are happy to post all replies. I hope that I will be able to reply as elequently as you have posted. You've obviously exerted great efforts in building this site. Speak to you at the end of this month / beginning of next Robert Kinchin

Thanks for the site. It's saving me lots of time tracking down stuff. My history is somewhat like yours; we're about the same age. We went to an AG church in Seattle; as a child I didn't have the capacity to appreciate the strangeness of it all. But I remember one thing in the High School Sunday School class, where the youth pastor held a multi-week presentation on how it was likely that JFK (who at the point had been dead 10 years) was really alive and was probably the Antichrist. I remember thinking at the time, pfffft. I used to think that going to (now Catholic) church with my children was, at worst, harmless. I no longer think that's the case, because I wasn't being honest with myself or with them. They, like I, think it's a waste of time. Why indoctrinate them with something you yourself don't believe in, only to later have to un-indoctrinate them? Best regards to you. This is my real name; if you post this, please anonymize it. Thank...

Its funny how my friends use to say they loved me so much, now they are calling me a vessel of wrath, chosen for hell...But they are still giving me threats about me leaving the church, and doubting God and His awesome double predestination. You know, I think we have some stuff in common, when it comes to the dogmatic calvinist churches... Charles Kennedy

my general reaction to your site is as follows: You say to Christians "Who are you to believe in God and tell me I'm going to hell?" Well, the converse could be asked of you: "Who are you to say there is no God, no Hell, etc." The truth is that we simply do not KNOW -- we make a choice to believe or not to believe in these things. As a former Christian I do believe in God and I hold that hell is only for those who freely choose to go there themselves - a loving God will not force Himself upon an unwilling human being, to do so would be spiritual rape. While I'm not ready to deny the existence of God or the spiritual, I do believe that your remarks about Christians are right on the money. Many of them have never grown in their understanding of their faith beyond their avoidance of hell. Thus, many of them are complete morons when it comes to proselytizing. (Did I spell that right?) :) I'm lucky to have a certain family member who will patiently tol...

Sorry but I just didn't have the hour and a half necessary to figure out how to use your site. Here is an observation on scripture - you may use it if you wish. We have all heard it said in the Bible that there is only one God. True believers know that to worship more than this one God is idolatry. Perhaps the two most famous quotes illustrating this are the following: Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: and thou shall love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. Deuteronomy 6: 4, 5 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: and thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. Mark 12: 29, 30 Yet in the very first chapter of the Bible is this: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion o...

Wow!! What a fantastic website! I see now why you say that you hardly have time to keep up with it. What an amazing job you've done. I'm most impressed! Most of my disillusionment with religion and Christianity in particular was born out of putting down the apologetics and picking up various books on science. I began with astronomy and cosmology then moved on to evolution and evolutionary sociology and psychology. Perhaps I'll put together a "favorites" booklist and share it with you. In any case, after much soul searching and intense study I finally woke up and realized that religion is little more than a mechanism our mind provides for answering difficult, if not imponderable, questions. In other words, we make it up as we go along. The problem is that when it becomes institutionalized we end up with behemoths like Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc. Anyway, I would still like the opportunity to sit down and chat with you and Sally sometime. There is much I have...

Well, that was a very interesting site. nonense, through and through, and very interesting contradictions you made on every single article. It comes down to this: 1 - You were never a real Christian; you had an emotional experience but then lost the "feeling" but never truly repented and were saved. 2 - you took your frustrations out on the Faith, rather than appealing to the Lord Himself. 3 - you love sin (probably homosexuality or some other sexual sin) rather than holiness, so you had to try to "destroy" Christianity (it's been tried, and failed, keep trying if you like spitting into a hurricane gale). 4 - you try to "encourage" other "ex-Christians" (who are really only unsaved people, who have "returned to the mud like pigs" just like you have, showing who you truly are, but you lure in these "others" to make yourself feel more justified. 5 - you stick to materialistic science, quoting the words ...

Dave- Your story is eerily similar to my own, with the exception that I haven’t pursued Christianity for 30 years after first realizing its shortcomings… once out, I’m out. I sent the following email to the pastor of a church I’d frequented and had been familiar with, in the final throes of my leaving Christianity. I received no response. -Zachary Moore ---------------------------- Pastor Todd- Hello, my name is Zachary Moore. I'm 22 years old, and a graduate student at the University of Cincinnati studying Pathobiology and Molecular Medicine. I wanted to hear your thoughts on my situation. I was born in Cincinnati into a Christian family. My mother was raised in St. Paul Lutheran Church in Reading, and my father had some exposure to a Disciples of Christ church in Carthage. They both eventually had epiphanies of faith while in college and attended a Messianic Jewish Church, then became enamored with a Reformed Baptist Church which empasized Paul's...

Dear Brother Dave, I just happen to come upon you site, call it divine appointment. I wander why you would say these things about The Lord. What you've frogotten is that God has given you a "free will". You are a free moral agent, if you leave him that's your choice. Christianity does not control anyone or anything. God loves you regardless of how you may feel about Him. God has blessed me since I came to Him. No! it's not easy, and if you read your Bible(if you still have it) Jesus said that we would be persecuted, and afflicted because of our believes, and that it's nothing against us, it's against Him. Somewhere along the line you must have taken it(your bad experience) personal and you wasn't even against you it was agianst Him. What bad experience did you have that made you change your mind about The Lord? What ever it was you should've sought the Lord about it, not up and just run away when things got tough. You defeated yourself, the dev...

Man! you really have missed the point - Grace and Mercy is the whole point...Grace is getting what you don't deserve(Forgiveness; Life; Family; basically anything good that you have at all!) and Mercy is not getting what we do deserve(Hell) We, every single human, christian or nonchristian, are sinners and we deserve Hell and death and torment and total seperation from God...but the whole point of Christ is to come to earth, being 100% human, walking in our shoes, being tempted by Satan, staying perfect, dying a horrible death on the Cross, not to mention with all of God's wrath bearing down on Him, and he died as the perfect sacrifice to God...stepping in our place, so we can have connection and intamacy and knowledge of God and who He is...yeah, i agree..there is no real christian due to the fact that we are sinners...none of us claim to be perfect..none of us claim to obery his commands...but, i will say he is the only thing worth living for and the only thing worth dying ...

This following letter was sent anonymously via the "report this message" link on the open forum. Hi: I am a Baptist ministers son and a happy atheist. You would love the book The Birth of Consiousness and the Breakown of the bicameral Mind, by Julain Jaynes . He explains how most feelings of a god are mental abilities that we are losing. A good thing I think . It helps explain how very intelligent people we respect believe. Well if they feel a spiritual presence how can they not. Most honest and sincere religous leaders acknowledge there is no scientific basis for belief but if they "feel" a presence to pray to its hard to ignore. I don't feel it.