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My only question to you is why?

Name: Missy emailaddress: emilybronte30@yahoo.com Comments: I respect that you have a right to your opinion, even if I don't agree with you. If you're interested in the other side of the coin, a couple of books might interest you. When Critics ask and The Case for Faith (this one is definitely an easier, more entertaining read) are both excellent arguments FOR Christianity, REAL christianity, not empty religion or tradition. My only question to you is why? Jesus did not gain anything from his time on this earth, nor did the apostles. Quite the contrary, they were all tortured and killed for their beliefs. They might be "famous" today, but at the time they did not gain fame, wealth, or power from their teachings. In fact, their whole message was to downplay themselves and preach love for others. So, the only options are that Christ was either crazy, lying, or God.

Only God Logic is a reliable source

Interesting site, but one problem with the arguments against God! You and many other atheists claim to be using common sense and logic when it comes to these matters but you are using flawed human logic so therefore you cannot trust it - Only God Logic is a reliable source which doesnt help your case all that much. Remember that you are not perfect so your thinking is not perfect which right there Proves God :) Walker

Ex every day but I come back to Christ within the same breath

I have to say that this website contains some of the most illogical crap that I have read to date. The logic used is nonsensical. Take a college course on logic and debate and you will see what I mean. This propaganda you have on this site rates second only to that of the Nazi's. (Can you feel that Christian love yet?) Look if you got screwed over by a person who happened to be a Christian realize that the person did it to you, not the Christian faith. Then more than likely your own human mind did in its search for where to lay blame for your more than probable troubles and sorrows, did lay it on Christianity. Grow up and just get over it. See a shrink and take some medication and maybe you will be ok. Don't drag other people down with you. Have a nice day Jesus Freak

God still loves you

Dave, my name is darrel and I am a Christian but I am not here to spew filth or verbal diarrea at you. Despite the fact that I disagree with ideologically I think it is wonderful that you are so interested in matters of philisophical interest; you say in your anti-testimony that people are not the reason you 'deconverted' but you recite a great number of inconsistent Christians; well, there sure are a lot of them, including myself! You may find this corny, but I really don't care; God still loves you; at this point you would say that there is no God but the whole world can deny him and that doesn't change the facts God Bless You Dave, May he watch over you and protect you, Have a great day Darrel

An Awesome Community Here

I've read the responses this community have given to the letter, "I need help," submitted by Emily, the 17 year old girl who is deconverting from Christianity, and I am overwhelmed, myself, by the kindness, compassion, encouragement, and depth of understanding in them. And what I realize is that these responses are not just words, they come from REAL people. Agnostics, atheists, humanists, and so forth, were demonized by the Christian religion I grew up in. As I have made my own journey out of Christianity, I have met people just like you folks here, and see the lie for what it is. I read that one of the men is bipolar, and experiences depression. I, too, am bipolar, and part of the reason I have left Christianity is because of how my church and the religion itself, responded to me. Because of the stigma attached to "mental illness," my mother and father never talked about bi-polar mood disorder in my father's family. His father was bipolar...

One Question

Hello everyone. I am no longer a Christian anymore. I recently made the decision, and simultaneously discovered this great site. I found that I could no longer believe in the stories of the Bible, lacking any concrete evidence. I also could not accept some of the terrible morality that the Bible espouses. I am much happier now, but I had a question to ask that has kind of been bothering me for a while. How can the supposed healings in Christian churches be explained? I realize in most cases, people are not healed. I was sick for over a year and tried to be healed multiple times, but it never happened. My aunt has cancer has has been healed multiple times, but she is still sick. But, it seems that some people are healed. How can we explain this? And I've heard about personal accounts of people seeing miracles and what not? Is the only explanation that these people are delusional or lying?

I need help

I don't know if I am putting this in the right place, but this is where I figure everyone will see it. I need your collective help as a community. You may remember me from not too long ago; the story of the 17 year old Ex-Southern-Baptist with depression problems . It has only been about 6 months since the first time I said out loud, "I am not a Christian." It has only been about a year since I first began to realize that my beliefs were largely irrational and started to question my faith. Where I stand now, I am no longer uncomfortable thinking about religion in general; I am firm in my disbelief. However, there are certain things that can...get to me. Triggers, if you will, that set off an enormous wave of emotions, particularly doubt (that I am doing the right thing, etc.). The main "trigger" is the Bible. When I was religious (and oh, how religious I was) the Bible consumed every waking thought of my time. For three years I ate, slept, drank, a...

I pray that God will draw you back

I am so sorry you feel so strongly against Christianity that you would go to all this trouble. The thing is, God's grace is amazing and his mercies no NO end. He sent His Son to die for you and apparently you once knew that. Christianity won't solve all your problems or erase them but He is the reason you are able to manage them, get through, and triumph over them. I pray that God will draw you back to Him in a mighty way and that you will one day soon use your energies in a way that is pleasing to not only your Father but in way that will inspire peace and truth in your life. God Bless

I'm not atheist

Unlike so many exchristians, I'm not atheist. Christians would have you believe that if you walked away from Jesus and bible that you have walked away from God.That is such pretentious bullshit.I've kept my belief in God but it's far removed from this corny man made God that thinks and reacts like a human. A God made in our image. Like I said I still believe in God but I've stopped pretending to know unknowable things. For all I know the atheists are right. For all I know the Christians are right. It's my opinion, though that the idea that we are born with a sinful nature,a condition we desperately need to be saved from,and that God became a man and a blood sacrifice for our sins, is the biggest lie in human history. Tom Dixon copyboy8 at netzero.net

You Should KILL YOURSELF!!!!!

This amazes me! How you put down God! How about you go to http://www.carm.org and find the answers of why God allowed some wars. Further, these false contridictions in the Bible, you didn't take into consideration that through God, all things are possible. Albert Einsten said we use at the most 10% of our brain power, so who posses the other 90%? If you guys REALLY were athiest however, you wouldnt go through all the trouble to make a website, because plan and simple, athiest could careless because in the end it doesnt matter. You are trying to find answers, you are agnostic. Why try to tell us not to believe in God when it just dont even matter when we die? Furthermore, you were never a real christian because real christians dont fall away from God and understands why God allows to do some things. I will just leave you with this thought, In the end if you are right, I have nothing to lose, but if i am right, you have ALOT to lose. Furthermore, I think you are a...

What is this all about?

I dont understand how anyone who could finally learn about the lord and feel the feeling when u know god is working in you and then jus decide to give up on him and beleive in nothing...Since I have found god in my life more miracles have happend to me then ever before and it is all because the lord has a plan for me and non beleivers should honestly figure out the true way of life but they dont need me to tell them that god will lead them to him in his own time when they need him trully. in all opinion on this website it makes me sick and sad but honestly u will relize the path u should of taken in the end or be glad u changed... Sara

You are doing an excellent job of debunking Christianity

Dave VanAllen, I think you're for real. You are doing an excellent job of debunking Christianity. Let me be quite up front with you throughout this message. It will take me a while to say some things, but I will be real with you as you are real with the world through your webpage. I would be honored if you would read my message through to the end and I believe it will be worth your while whatever your final conclusion. However I imagine that with a site this big you must receive quite a bit of mail and have quite a bit of work on your hands. So suite yourself, it's your life and your time. I for one am choosing to spend some time writing you. As a friend perhaps? That's for you to judge. Maybe there are no real friends, only people deluded into thinking so. Maybe I'm one of them. Once again..., let me not waste any more space. I want to quote you 3 times and put in some response. >> Originally reading this I had some thoughts I wanted to p...

good vibrations in Christ

Hello Dave, As you know, I absurdly recommitted my life to Jesus Christ a while back, and I am still gloriously serving Him even though my site denies Him and debunks my religious bullshit. I planned it that way to confuse people for Jesus! Your website deeply pains me. I have read a lot of what you have posted, and while truth and facts are important, why pay attention to them? Why must you publicly hate God so much? He murdered Himself for you! Does that mean nothing to you? I am going to tell you THE TRUTH Dave, and I am praying fervently that the Holy Spirit will quicken the reality of it to your inner spook, I mean spirit. Don't you know that God loves you? The Bible says God created the universe by speaking a powerful magical spell from Nowhere. The Bible also says that an invisible man named Jesus lives in the sky, and that he blasted off to Heaven from two different locations miles apart at different times after he gloriously defeated the Talking Snake and ...

DROPPING THE BLIND(FAITH)FOLD

I have heard throughout my life about the “soul” of man. This disembodied entity animated by the “spirit”. (Both of which, in their roots mean “breath”,) The soul, of course, connects us to an existence outside of the body. In other words, a transcedent existence from the natural. Well, as I now see it--that is a belief based on faith. And faith comes in two forms: 1) Reasonable faith, 2) Blind faith. Reasonable faith says “this chair will hold you up” or “this train is going to Chattanooga”. You don’t KNOW that it is, but all the evidence around you points to the logical answer. We use reason and thus our belief is rational. Blind faith says “there’s a ghost in here” or “you’re soul will burn in Hell”. You can’t prove there’s not a Hell or a ghost, but the reality of it is contrary to the sum of evidence for such a belief. These believers in blind faith say such things as you can’t prove there is no afterlife or no God. To which they are being unreasonable--you can’t p...

I will pray for you...

May God have mercy on your soul. Before the return of our Lord I pray that you will have seen the light. I will pray for you that the Lord will show himself to you and open those blinded eyes and hardened heart. Harold

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