you know that Jesus esixts
Dave, If you are an ex-christian then you know that Jesus esixts and that he loves you. Satan does not love you or care anything for or of you. I beg you to change your mind and reevaluate your decision to step away from the Lord and talk and pray to Him about your questions. If you maintain this thought process you will regret your decision after death. If you need answers my pastor is very knowledgeable and has never told me to "just have faith". Please, send my your questions and I will get you answers. Jesus Loves You.
Josh Duncan
joshduncan80 at yahoo dot com
Josh Duncan
joshduncan80 at yahoo dot com
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This ex-christian knows that Jesus never existed and there is no such thing as Satan, or god, for that matter. But you know everything, being about sixteen years old.
Please then have your pastor state his case that jesus did in fact walk on this earth.
By the way, how old are you?
"Jesus exists and that he loves us!" Wow!
"Satan does not love us or care anything for us" Gee!
"If we maintain this thought process we will regret our decision after death" Egad!
Hey! I want to become like a little child again, like Josh. I am going to e-mail him and ask him to find out from his pastor how I can do that. His pastor is very knowledgeable, and wise, and not just your typical "Good OLE Boy" who graduated from a hick bible school, and is fleecing the flock. ( Never mind what he may be doing with the church secretary)
Dan (Who feels certain that the preacher is alive and well, but have to admit that I do have some reservations about Jesus and Satan.)
Most people at exchristen.net were once like you but wised up through rational thought and study, of the bible as well as a vast number of other writings pertaining to religion as well as science – and not just from one side, either. I suggest that you open your mind and engage in a similar pursuit of knowledge. Then, when you have reached a conclusion not based on a single source, come back and let us know if you still "believe."
For us, it means that we DO NOT BELIEVE JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD. In my case, it means that I do not believe Jesus (still) exists. If he ever lived, he is DEAD now and has nothing more to say.
As for Satan, as far as we know, this being is entirely imaginary. He is as real as Ahriman, Apep, Loki, Typhon or Ravana - in other words, NOT AT ALL.
But hey, Josh. Why don´t you ask your pastor, "who is very knowledgeable" what evidence he has that Jesus actually rose from the dead, and that Satan is an actual being. Let´s hear what the good man has to say. I bet it will be very interesting.
Do your best now! If you are real, that is.
Now Josh you poor lost niny!
Read below;
Jesus was the recipient of the greatest lie and cover-up ever to have been perpetrated in the history of the world.
The Virgin Birth: Was Mary a virgin? Yes
Was Mary inseminated by a God? Yes
Was Mary inseminated by the Godhead of her parish? Yes
Mary was molested and raped by the Godhead of her parish, therefore her priest had to quickly concoct a story about visitation of angels from God, because he, Mary and Joseph would have been stoned to death immediately after Mary had announced her pregnancy. The priest knew that Joseph
and all others would quickly accept the story of visitation of angels. Since Joseph and Mary were
espoused to be married, but Joseph could not confess the child to be his, because they would have been
stoned immediately, but Mary knew that the priest had molested and raped her, but could not tell
anyone about this, not even Joseph, so she and her priest concocted the whole story about visitation of angels and the coming messiah Jesus Christ the long awaited personal savior.
Jesus also, thought that he was sent by a god, because he had been told that he was every day since he was born, thus the story of Jesus is the biggest hoax ever been devised in the history of the world, just because millions of people share the same belief, does not in no way prove that it is true.
So did God or an Angel commit adultry with Mary? God was not married to Mary, neither was the Angel nor Joseph, so was Jesus a Bastard Child from an Angel, a God, or Joseph?
We'll be praying for you and your brilliant paster to figure it all out!
Please visit my blog at:
http://nomorefakegods.blogspot.com/
for prayer and consultation!
Actually nobody 'knows', not even you Josh.
And what's with the threats about the afterlife?
You don't know anything about that either.
Maybe it was Satan that subconsciously manipulated you into typing his number into your title?
Ooh, be afraid!
You know that Flying Spaghetti Monster esixts and that he loves you. God does not love you or care anything for or of you. I beg you to change your mind and reevaluate your decision to step away from His Noodliness and talk and pray to Him about your questions. If you maintain this thought process you will regret your decision after death. Please, read the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, all your questions will be answered. FSM Loves You.
still lurking around,
Bill
I left christianity after finding that it just diddn't work for me, and after finding something (insights from near death experiences) that worked better for me.
I have prayed to God to show me the path for me, and it did not involve christianity, nor did it involve Jesus. When you research and read about Jesus, christianity, and it's history, you start to see that it's pretty much like every other religion, including how it borrows elements from other mythical godmen of ancient times.
Do you want to know what what Satan is Josh? It's fear. Satan is fear. The fear that keeps you where you are and prevents your growth and evolution as an individual. Satan is the fear that whispers "If you leave christianity, you'll go to hell!". Satan is the fear that whispers that everyone outside of your system of belief is damned to hell, and you'll join them if you're not careful.
God is love, and love sets you free and enables you to grow and become a better individual. Fear grips you and freezes you in place.
Will you choose God, or will you choose Satan?
jus becuz u dount beeleev hit dount meen hit ant tru!
eye luv jezsis wit awl mi hart. i weel saa ah spechial prar fore u awl nun beleevers.
deer gald kaint u hailp theez pour seeners, thay ant goht musch edukation, butt itz knot therr falt thay caint beeas smhart az mee iz, apemen.
Be4 u kno hit gald wheel hit ole satin upp de syde ob de hed an smac de shyt owt ob hymn four yas, an yez wheal bee savd, apeman.
1. Why is it that the members of nearly every major hate based organization in this country identify themselves as christian?
2. Why is theology that was written only for adults preached to children as young as 3 or 4 years in christian churches?
3.What hard evidence can he provide that he is in fact preaching the one true version of christianity and not one of the hundreds of false versions that have totally decieved millions of unsuspecting christian-wanna-bees out there in the world?
4. If you already have your own copy of God's word and can read it all for yourself, what do you even need a pastor for?
5. Is he willing to provide hard copies of all his bank accounts and financial transactions for the last 5 years? If not, why not?
You go ahead and ask him these for me and when you get back with his answers I'll see if I can't come up with more questions.
Looks like another case of hit and run.
A Christian:
Believes in a God and Jesus.
Prays to God.
Goes to Church.
Pretends to be a Christian.
Believes whatever any preacher tells them.
Gives the Church 10% or more.
Feels guilty and scared.
Is a coward and afraid to question their beliefs.
An Atheist:
Does not believe in Gods.
Does not pray.
Does not pretend to be a Christian.
Does not go to church.
Is not a coward or afraid to question all beliefs.
So a God knows which one of us is a Christian and who is an Atheist, just by who believes something or not!
I think the fundamental problem here is that the very concept of being an "ex-christian" compromises the integrity of what it is to actually be a "christian"!
I'll try to explain what I mean.
When we underwent our conversion experiences we were told we had been brought into the fold, we had become the chosen ones, we were no longer under sentence of eternal hell and damnation, we were saved and our lives were changed. Many of those who post here, will have had quite dramatic emotional responses to all of that. To meet one's maker and to enter into a personal relationship with him is no small thing.
However, having met God, having met Jesus, having been filled with the Holy Spirit we have now turned our back on it all. Logic would suggest that everything else should fade into insignificance at the very comparison. Yet we have done it, we are not insane, we are rational, free-thinking individuals. I am not broken-hearted by the loss of Jesus in my life (when I left my ex-partner I learned what a broken heart was and he was a mere human being). We may well miss people from our various churches (or maybe not) but I have yet to meet one ex-christian who actually missed Jesus.
You may assert that Satan has led us away from the true path and it is your decision to believe that, I will not berate you for your belief, all I want to do is ask you one simple question. Why would a perfect, loving Father-God create a being so powerful as to be able to lure his chosen ones away from him so convincingly? I have been a mother for 14 years, I love my daughter like nothing else, I would NEVER create such a trap for her. That, alone, makes me a better parent than your god who I reject wholly and completely.
So, if someone finds the One True Way, leaving that path should be impossible without experiencing tremendous loss and heart-break at that time not after death. I am still waiting. If it is Satan's work, then God created Satan in his image not Man!
Please ask your pastor to justify torture.
Thank you.
And it's not hard to see where they got their ideas. All the standard Jesus stuff - the virgin birth on the Winter Solstice, casting out demons, curing diseases with one touch, turning water into wine, getting nailed up to a cross or tree as supposed penance for somebody else's crime, and the rest - was claimed for Zoroaster, Ahura Mazda, Mithras and a dozen other man-gods hundreds or thousands of years before Jesus showed up with his "Me too" act. Proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the New Testament is a plagiarism and a forgery.
And if Jesus were still alive to read it, he wouldn't even recognize himself from it. At most, he'd think it was about another guy with the same name.
if ur pastor is talking about wad the bible means, havent u realized thatpastors are only creating interpretaions of the bible? whats so knowledgable about that?
KNOWLEDGE is a statement that is derived from a rational belief - rationality is similar to critical thinking.
If you prove to me that jesus existed with some genetic evidence showing that the bodily evidence lived 2006 yrs ago, and if you show that it was in a siginificant location, in terms of religion, I would agree that Jesus lives.
Dont tell me the evidence had been proven by your pastor. ull be a fool to listen to somebody else. GO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE FOR YOURSELF!! r u going to let other people tell wad truth is?? or r u going to deprive urself of intellectual rationality
dont tell me i NOE jesus exists, dont try to appealto my emotions or conscience. we- or maybe just some- rational infdividuals only work to be infleunced only by reasoning.
dont talk if you have nothing intelligent to say
P.S. satan is a fictional name. in which part does this name ever appear in the bible?
did you noe that satan in hebrew means 'the bringer of light', not the devil? satan gives us knowledge, not god. put it thisway, the church is spreading bs. if u trust their lethal fallacies, misinterpreting wad 'satan' is and what he 'does', u r but a fool of social delusion.
The existence of a historical Jesus is a topic that comes up a lot here. It's quite fascinating. If you really wish to discuss it, I'm game. However, I have several conditions before entering into a dialog with you: 1) You need to pick a name for yourself, as I now refuse to have long discussions with anyone called "Anonymous". 2) You need to show that you've done at least a little bit of homework. For example, you might show that you understand something about mythicist theories, or know who the current proponents are, or at least know what the oft-cited primary sources of evidence for Jesus are. In other words, produce something other than the facile argument "show me your evidence that he [Jesus] did not [exist]". If you can meet those very meager requirements, then we can have at it. Interested?
No. Absolutely not. I, for one, shall not be silenced.