tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post987452115324967003..comments2023-05-15T03:17:32.214-05:00Comments on Letters to the Webmaster: I would love to debate you allDave Van Allenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08288914445803411893noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-38217407271430302372008-01-11T11:00:00.000-05:002008-01-11T11:00:00.000-05:00Also, I am FULLY with Claude on this one; don't ta...Also, I am FULLY with Claude on this one; don't take that from people who condescend you for being less educated, the only thing that matters here is intelligence. If you are intelligent enough, you do not need a whole lot of knowledge to back yourself up, especially as this is a topic loaded with rhetoric where a great deal of knowledge is unnecessary.DaBrainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09133195229349236254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-42328108926644836672008-01-11T10:47:00.000-05:002008-01-11T10:47:00.000-05:00eugh, I’m more than willing to, but I warn you, I ...eugh, I’m more than willing to, but I warn you, I am up to my neck in religious bull right now, I wont be too tolerant of more, so stick to the facts first and foremost.<BR/><BR/>A warning, I am a very open minded person who would take Christianity in a flash if you could give evidence for it, but I have debated so many Christians and heard so much ignorance parading as truth, I GREATLY doubt you can give me something new to think about. However, you’re on, how do we get started?DaBrainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09133195229349236254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-64935575745104379152007-12-15T21:19:00.000-05:002007-12-15T21:19:00.000-05:00So long, "anonymous!"So long, "anonymous!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-14031493435727380122007-12-15T21:07:00.000-05:002007-12-15T21:07:00.000-05:00We here at Ex-c are the "heathen, wretched, damned...We here at Ex-c are the "heathen, wretched, damned, spawns of satan, and enemies of God" that the christian church does not want and happily condemns. Here, you will find homosexuals, lesbians, atheists, agnostics, buddhists, wiccans, new-agers, etc. etc. etc....we are the ones that you say are going to hell to burn forever. What do you expect? That we will go through life alone without the "fellowship" that you christians enjoy in church?<BR/><BR/>Heaven doesn't want us, and hell's afraid we'll take over!<BR/><BR/>hehehe...<BR/><BR/>Would you close the door behind you on your way out, please?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-38169875278626242712007-12-15T21:06:00.000-05:002007-12-15T21:06:00.000-05:00We here at Ex-c are the "heathen, wretched, damned...We here at Ex-c are the "heathen, wretched, damned, spawns of satan, and enemies of God" that the christian church does not want and happily condemns. Here, you will find homosexuals, lesbians, atheists, agnostics, buddhists, wiccans, new-agers, etc. etc. etc....we are the ones that you say are going to hell to burn forever. What do you expect? That we will go through life alone without the "fellowship" that you christians enjoy in church?<BR/><BR/>Heaven doesn't want us, and hell's afraid we'll take over!<BR/><BR/>hehehe...<BR/><BR/>Would you close the door behind you on your way out, please?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-49463206193864602262007-12-12T19:39:00.000-05:002007-12-12T19:39:00.000-05:00It is interesting to note, that our current presid...It is interesting to note, that our current president who "cofessed Jesus" before being elected, has also wound up with the worst presidential approval rating in US history!<BR/><BR/>I'd like to see people use a little common sense when electing the president. Look for qualities such as reponsibility, integrity, sensibility, for example. Look for somebody with a solid plan. Don't elect somebody just because they've "accepted Jesus," for crying out loud!<BR/><BR/>It gets old, man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-66241174676755292962007-12-12T19:33:00.000-05:002007-12-12T19:33:00.000-05:00Where'd Kyle go? I thought he'd love to debate us...Where'd Kyle go? I thought he'd love to debate us!<BR/><BR/>Anonymous, you say we "seek shelter behind a computer?" I live in Dallas, Texas, which is in the bible belt USA. There are countless christian and catholic churches here, and very few choices otherwise. People here routinely and openly talk about the bible as though it were the absolute truth. I must keep quiet, as I don't see it that way. To me, the bible is a screwed up mess of a book that nobody can really make complete sense out of and christians and catholics won't admit it. I'm through fooling myself. I cannot be a part of it. I really have no where to go. Non-believers like myself generally keep quiet about their disbelief where I live. I enjoy coming here and meeting with other non-believers b/c we see eye to eye on a religion that I otherwise am surrounded by. Christians have their churches and their events where they meet and "fellowship." Ex-christian.net is the only place that I can go to get away from christianity and openly discuss the absurdity of the faith. It's a relief, really, to have found this website. It's nice to know that there are sensible people out there who use their brains and are willing to be honest with themselves and with me. I never found this in church when I was a christian. We just don't have the meeting places that christians have, and so we find our way to this website. I, personally, am not "hiding" behind a computer, I am seeking solace from an absurd and monstrous religion that seems to be taking over, frankly. Look at the trouble Mitt Romney is having over being a mormon! His religion should have nothing to do with whether or not he is elected president. Christians own the USA, man, and I need a place like this to get away from them.<BR/><BR/>Long live Ex-christian.net!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-86858939972523608782007-12-04T09:20:00.000-05:002007-12-04T09:20:00.000-05:00It would be useless to debate you because experien...It would be useless to debate you because experience has shown I cannot reason with those under mind-control. I bet you've tried to kill yourself by sticking your head in the microwave?<BR/><BR/>You keep your religion and when you die badly, you go to your own hell. We've got a party to go to in the next life. And, if there is no next life, I don't care cuz people like you made this one suck bad enough.Heretic Zerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15759525805905158600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-71727454435731912242007-11-29T05:33:00.000-05:002007-11-29T05:33:00.000-05:00Mate, If you want a meaningful dialogue, strip you...Mate, <BR/><BR/>If you want a meaningful dialogue, strip your comments from any "judgemental remarks" and really start listening.<BR/><BR/>Like Mike in the beginning said, many here WERE familiar with the stuff, and with many of the counter-arguments you may have in mind.大黃傻貓GARFIELDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03076802459043571276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-20124496168124777562007-11-26T06:43:00.000-05:002007-11-26T06:43:00.000-05:00Kyle M wrote: “Remember, no matter what God will f...Kyle M wrote: “Remember, no matter what God will forgive you for your transgressions against his holy name."<BR/><BR/>I don't need to be forgiven for God's screw ups.<BR/><BR/>God needs to learn to be more responsible for his own bad actions instead of taking it out on lowly human beings.<BR/> <BR/>What an arrogant statement: "I need to be forgiven by God". <BR/><BR/>I guess that's what happens when you are drunk with power. You can threaten someone who is inferior to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-47467465016185581692007-11-25T23:19:00.000-05:002007-11-25T23:19:00.000-05:00"no matter what god?"will forgive me?praise be too..."no matter what god?"will forgive me?<BR/>praise be too beelzebub.freethinker05https://www.blogger.com/profile/02452317112890788846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-60379771288621518532007-11-25T21:11:00.000-05:002007-11-25T21:11:00.000-05:00Kyle M wrote: “Remember, no matter what God will f...<B>Kyle M wrote:</B> <I>“Remember, no matter what God will forgive you for your transgressions against his holy name.”</I><BR/><BR/>Who???Cousin Rickyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02004706480014555637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-20411552357326178742007-11-24T23:49:00.000-05:002007-11-24T23:49:00.000-05:00Seems Kyle never came back. Typical isn't it.Seems Kyle never came back. Typical isn't it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-57229447056439541612007-11-24T22:13:00.000-05:002007-11-24T22:13:00.000-05:00Anonymous Wrote: "If He's really all that powerfu...Anonymous Wrote: "If He's really all that powerful, then I see no point in trying to win over your heart at this point in your life. All I can do is be the best person I can be"<BR/><BR/>Ok fair enough. <BR/><BR/>I can't speak for everyone else, however I don't have a problem with what you just wrote even though I may not agree with everything you said in regards to christianity. <BR/><BR/>Best wishes to you also. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-79193996237612390042007-11-24T19:58:00.000-05:002007-11-24T19:58:00.000-05:00gIt feels beneath me to come here and argue about ...gIt feels beneath me to come here and argue about this blog, but I wanted to do it because, no matter how much hatred for Christ and God is being spewed here, I feel nothing but the deepest love for those who hate Him.<BR/><BR/>If you want to talk about mind control, try being what I used to be: A Jehovah's Witness. They definitely brainwashed me for the longest time, and I believed in them 100%. But eventually I saw that their set of beliefs were not practical, and love for the neighbor was reserved exclusively to those who belong to their group alone.<BR/><BR/>But my best friend said once: "Why do you only love your friends?... I say Pray for those who persecute you". <BR/><BR/>I don't approve of Fundamentalist Christianity. That's not the way to show what God is, much like Fundamentalist Islam is not showing what that religion is all about. I may not agree with Islam or Judaism completely, but I respect those who choose to believe in a different way than I. They deserve that respect because they are just as human as I am. <BR/><BR/>My point is... I truly apologize to everyone who has been hurt in one way or another by fundamentalist "Christianity". I believe that you can only come to the Father if He has called you to come to Him. If your heart isn't there, well then, you don't come. It's simple. No point in arguing who's right or who's wrong. Will that win over your heart? <BR/><BR/>How about if I simply display an random act of kindness? Say, for example, that you're the driver behind me at the local Mickey D's. I don't know you, and maybe will never see you again. But I can tell that cashier "I'm paying for both my food and the food of the car behind me". <BR/><BR/>I have no ulterior motives, no desire to give you a "Christian" publication or to convert you. I just want to show you that all of those so-called "Christians" who made you think twice about God aren't the majority. <BR/><BR/>Who knows? Maybe you were short $5 at the Drive-Thru, and this act of kindness was, as some people say, "godsend" (or let's use the word "convenient" or "timely" for the sake of our conversation). Hey, no problem. Christians aren't the only ones who do these random acts of kindness. People of all religions do, too.<BR/><BR/>My final point is this: don't waste your time arguing with people who try to win you over for Jesus or for God. Sure, I'd love to sit down with you and, if you gave me a chance, I'd talk to you about Him. But I'm going to respect how you believe, because my best friend tells me that despite whatever you think of Him, He loves you since the day you were born. <BR/><BR/>If He's really all that powerful, then I see no point in trying to win over your heart at this point in your life. All I can do is be the best person I can be. <BR/><BR/>In fact, your time is very valuable, and you've spent these few seconds reading these words. So thank you. Let me try to make your world a little bit better. However you decide to live your life, however you choose to believe, I wish you the best and hope you find the fulfillment and the peace that every one of us is ultimately looking for.<BR/><BR/>Semper Fidelis, from a Corporal of Marines on deployment onboard the USS Kearsarge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-47757604382315114622007-11-21T06:17:00.000-05:002007-11-21T06:17:00.000-05:00If there is something you don't get, then why not ...If there is something you don't get, then why not just send me a message and ask?Dave Van Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08288914445803411893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-52918459883757792582007-11-21T02:45:00.000-05:002007-11-21T02:45:00.000-05:00the above post was by me, "Kommissar" I just dont ...the above post was by me, "Kommissar" I just dont get this garbage about being logged in to Exchristian cant post under my IdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-63759536607391101432007-11-21T02:43:00.000-05:002007-11-21T02:43:00.000-05:00We have sections of the forums specifically for de...We have sections of the forums specifically for debate between believers of various types and non-believers. So you can, debate us if you dare.<BR/><BR/>Be warned, any reliance on scripture will not be accepted without the following:<BR/><BR/>1. The existence of original texts.<BR/><BR/>2. Correct and consistent translation of the original texts.<BR/><BR/>3. Lack of any contradiction, regarding alleged facts contained within the texts.<BR/><BR/>Failure to do all of the above is not proving the Bible is evidence of anything other than Christianity is a crock. Deal with it.<BR/><BR/>Anything else is ultimately guess work and not the basis of the debate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-79807816475119421672007-11-20T20:49:00.000-05:002007-11-20T20:49:00.000-05:00Anonymous Said:"Do you wonder at times why you are...Anonymous Said:<BR/>"Do you wonder at times why you are filled with so much hate and antimosity towards someone you have never met?"<BR/><BR/>First of all Anonymous, I don't owe you any explanation, nor do I seek your approval about what I say on here so Piss off and mind your own business. Your opinions of me mean nothing. Who the blue hell are you anyway? <BR/><BR/>Anonymous Said:<BR/>"Why you seek shelter behind a computer and lash out at anyone whose opinion is slightly different then yours and through their own love for you hopes to reach you, albeit I disagree with kyles way of going about it"<BR/><BR/>Talking about calling the kettle black. You seem to be seeking shelter behind a computer yourself. What a hypocrite you are. Be thankful that it is here online that you are dealing with me. You would not want to deal with the real me in person. <BR/><BR/>Maybe if people like you "Anonymous" and Kyle would "Mind Your Own Business" and quit cramming your "Worthless" opinions down the throats of others on this site, you wouldn't get a "Hateful reaction". <BR/><BR/>Are people like you dear anonymous too stupid to understand the words, "Mind Your Own Business"? People like you and Kyle set yourselves up to get flamed on here so don't expect me to be kind to you. I do not and will not apologize for my comments on here. If you don't like my attitude, that is your problem. I quit living to please others years ago, so fuck off you nosy ass opinionated prick.<BR/><BR/>ANONYMOUS SAID:<BR/>"is there no common decency left for ones common man?"<BR/><BR/>That's life pal. Get over it, and get use to it. If you can't be more thick skinned, then I suggest you go hide under your bed and suck on your thumb for the rest of your life, because someone might hurt your tender little cry baby feelings. <BR/><BR/>Anonymous Said:<BR/>"It amazes me how much ignorance and hate you showed in that post." <BR/><BR/>Once again that is your problem, and I could care less if it bothers you or not. <BR/><BR/>You are the one who is ignorant dear Anonymous. You can't seem to understand how people like myself are sick and damn tired of people like you who don't know how to keep their opinions to themselves. If you don't like people like me criticizing others, then keep your damn opinion to yourself. <BR/><BR/>It's a very simple concept to understand, now let's see if you are smart enough to understand it by not replying back to my post. <BR/><BR/>I have a feeling you will want to reply back, because people like you dear "Anonymous" are predictable. <BR/><BR/>So stop going around telling people how to act and treat others. It's none of your damn business and as far as I'm concerned you are nothing but a piss ant who has a worthless opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-90521914057882788482007-11-20T18:59:00.000-05:002007-11-20T18:59:00.000-05:00Kyle, I was born into a Baptist family and then l...Kyle,<BR/> I was born into a Baptist family and then later became a member of the Assembly of God church. I was exposed to critical thinking when I went to college and began to doubt my religion (funny how knowledge and religion don't mix, eh?) The final nail on my coffin of faith was when I watched Carl Sagan's Cosmos. It showed me how wonderful life is - and all without God.<BR/> I would rather have my feet nailed to the floor than become a Christian again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-9427505510105302302007-11-18T21:44:00.000-05:002007-11-18T21:44:00.000-05:00Anonymous: "Just out of curiousity, how can you a...Anonymous: "Just out of curiousity, how can you all be so openly cruel and hurtful to someone who in his opinion is trying to help you?"<BR/><BR/>Because we know <I>from our own experiences</I> that what he is trying to do will hurt rather than help.<BR/><BR/>We're done with Christianity. Some of us have an intense and abiding distaste for know-it-all believers who think they know us better than we know ourselves.<BR/><BR/>People who come to this site and post apologetic tripe without taking the time to understand where we're coming from...<BR/><BR/>,,,deserve every fucking bit of abuse they get. We see no "love" in their actions, none at all.<BR/><BR/>And I, for one, shall not be silenced.<BR/><BR/>Now bugger off.Astrejahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11240778939571936166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-46414027241296747092007-11-18T21:00:00.000-05:002007-11-18T21:00:00.000-05:00Anonymous.First of all, please read the site discl...Anonymous.<BR/><BR/>First of all, please read the site disclaimer before you post again. Second, take one second to click the "other" radio button and type in a pseudonym. It's really easy. I'm sure that anyone can figure it out. Finally, when a poster says "you" over and over in a post on a website, no one can be sure who the hell is being addressed. Try using names in your rude comments next time and perhaps someone will understand who it is that is being rebuked and insulted. <BR/><BR/>Thanks.Dave Van Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08288914445803411893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-5419514363710062572007-11-18T20:36:00.000-05:002007-11-18T20:36:00.000-05:00It amazes me how much ignorance and hate you showe...It amazes me how much ignorance and hate you showed in that post. To come down upon a complete stranger with such disdain and hate shows how truely you have lost yourself.<BR/><BR/>Do you wonder at times why you are filled with so much hate and antimosity towards someone you have never met? Why you seek shelter behind a computer and lash out at anyone whose opinion is slightly different then yours and through their own love for you hopes to reach you, albeit I disagree with kyles way of going about it.<BR/><BR/>At the end of your life are you truely going to be happy living knowing that you made "yourself" happy and damn anyone else. That seems like a sad way to live. I am not saying anyones view is right or wrong it would be pure arrogance for me to dictate the lives of others. However, despite religion, despite beliefs, is there no common decency left for ones common man?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-11935394368778844392007-11-18T15:56:00.000-05:002007-11-18T15:56:00.000-05:00Hey Anonymous,It's called "Freedom Of Speech", som...Hey Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>It's called "Freedom Of Speech", something christians seem to hate, but most of all I don't really care what you think, so get over it. I do not live my life to please other people, so go screw yourself.<BR/><BR/>If you don't like what other people post on here then you don't need to be coming on this site and reading the posts on here, and complaining about it. Nobody is forcing you to read the posts on this site. So don't expect everyone else to conform to your standards. <BR/><BR/>I don't speak for everyone else, however if you don't like what I say well that's just too damn bad for people like you. I will say what I want to say, so deal with it. <BR/><BR/>Anytime someone posts such ridiculous shit like Kyle did they deserve to get flamed. You dear "Anonymous" have also set yourself up to get flamed and ridiculed on here. <BR/><BR/>So go somewhere else and whine and cry why don't you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-39801057349791524902007-11-18T14:24:00.000-05:002007-11-18T14:24:00.000-05:00Just out of curiousity, how can you all be so open...Just out of curiousity, how can you all be so openly cruel and hurtful to someone who in his opinion is trying to help you? You may disagree with his view but does it call for such a violent and cold-hearted response? <BR/><BR/>Whether he is right or wrong does not matter the fact is he, in his mind was concerned for you and in turn you respond to his concern with sacarcasm, pompousness, and anger?<BR/><BR/>I have seen one answer to this persons post that has an actually addressing of the issue. Otherwise it seems angry babel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com