tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post8877537123105736017..comments2023-05-15T03:17:32.214-05:00Comments on Letters to the Webmaster: I really need answersDave Van Allenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08288914445803411893noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-84496011414925801852007-10-06T02:31:00.000-05:002007-10-06T02:31:00.000-05:00Darlene said: "I had big fat ugly warts all over m...Darlene said: "I had big fat ugly warts all over my hands, knees and get this, even my chin and nose , yep i looked great! I had tried everything to get rid of them from peeing on them, banana skins, rubbing them on frogs, chopping them off..."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Okay, that's all just a bit too weird (and kinky) if you ask me. Wait a minute.. you tried PEEING on them? WTF???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-39154905927099339842007-10-03T21:06:00.000-05:002007-10-03T21:06:00.000-05:00...da da de dum dum dee dahhh doooDee dee de dum d......da da de dum dum dee dahhh dooo<BR/>Dee dee de dum de doo deee<BR/>Dum de doo deee, de doo de dum dah<BR/>Jesus Takes The Cake...<BR/><BR/>I won't be able to get that song out of my mind for the rest of the day now. Thanks a lot.eel_shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01658032217061343997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-65484228413289088882007-10-03T16:59:00.000-05:002007-10-03T16:59:00.000-05:00webmaster,Thanks to those seatbelts and airbags, w...webmaster,<BR/><BR/>Thanks to those seatbelts and airbags, we still have you to chat with. I am glad you survived it unharmed.<BR/><BR/>Seo,<BR/>That Jesus take the wheel song drives me batty! It is like listening to white noise or the scratching of nails down a chalk board. UGHH! It is a lullabye to brainwash the masses.<BR/><BR/>The people who insist that a divine miracle saved them, usually sound so over bloated by it. They make it sound like ANY miracle can be easily attained by everyone.<BR/><BR/>IF you have the right ammount/brand of faith.<BR/><BR/>If miracles are so easy to achieve, then why do they still need hospitals and doctors?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-82340562815184366742007-10-03T14:12:00.000-05:002007-10-03T14:12:00.000-05:00I was in a car accident a little over two years ag...I was in a car accident a little over two years ago. I slid off the road at 35 mph and took out a telephone pole. The pole smashed down on the car, crushing the windshield and caving in the roof. In fact, the car was totalled, with a bent frame and so forth.<BR/><BR/>My injuries? Not a scratch. I got out of the car, called police, took pictures of the scene, called my wife, helped direct traffic around the live power cables that were all over the road, and after being ticketed, drove on to work in another car. <BR/><BR/>When I was a Christian, I might have considered the episode divine intervention. But since I wasn't a Christian any longer, I merely chocked it up to airbags, decent automobile construction, and lucky circumstance. <BR/><BR/>Why on any day of the week do some people survive accidents without a scratch, while others only sustain injuires, and yet others are inexplicably killed? <BR/><BR/>Because that's how the ball bounces, that's why. There is nothing magical going on, of that I'm sure.Dave Van Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08288914445803411893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-36237193901896550732007-10-03T13:47:00.000-05:002007-10-03T13:47:00.000-05:00Carrie Underwood has a song called “Jesus Takes th...Carrie Underwood has a song called “Jesus Takes the Wheel.” It’s about a young mom with her young child. They’re driving home to celebrate Christmas with her parents. On they way she looses control of the car and it begins to weave into on-coming traffic but it the last second Jesus Takes the Wheel. And EVERYONE is saved! Saved by Jesus! They were blessed! They had a great Christmas! Oh, the warm and fuzzies. <BR/><BR/>I know it’s just a song about fictional people but it chaps my ass because it certainly was inspired by stories that people hold to be true. “I was in a car accident. I should be dead but Jesus saved me. I was blessed…lots and lots of people prayed for me and I lived. God heard our prayers. “ <BR/><BR/>Yet in the United States, there are around 40,000 a year – that’s a 100-something a day – vehicle related deaths. <BR/><BR/>Are these people unblessed? <BR/><BR/>If it is a blessing to survive something that someone else didn’t, what is death?SEOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01444837842056248010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-82314867808007705672007-10-03T04:18:00.000-05:002007-10-03T04:18:00.000-05:00Darlene,No one attacked anyone. Is the sky falling...Darlene,<BR/><BR/>No one attacked anyone. <BR/>Is the sky falling too?<BR/><BR/>I examined your story, and then I laid out the questions that I was left with after reading your post.<BR/><BR/>You failed to present legit evidence for your supernatural intervention. You did not convince me of it happening, and I revealed my disbelief in front of you and everyone else.<BR/><BR/>Your subjective "experience" is not a broad reaching occurrence that has helped anyone else, but yourself! Is that not a selfish thing to advocate? That's why these miracle stories tend to bother me a bit. <BR/><BR/>Your miracle BRAGS:" I am special; I must tell everyone about how special I am because I received a special treatment from god. I am great and cured! OH, I am sorry it doesn’t happen for everyone so easily.<BR/><BR/>Almost everyone else reading your miracle story was left to feel inferior; I guess I suck, because god ignores me. <BR/><BR/>You see miracles ALWAYS leaves everyone else EXCLUDED. The unfortunate MASSES are left hanging out to dry, almost like being abandoned and uncared for. <BR/><BR/>That does not sit well with me. Preferential treatment that benefits the few, while the rest of the human population is left to fin for itself seems completely unfair and unjust. <BR/><BR/>ALL miracles are usually limited to only one individual, as yours is exclusively a special occurrence tailor made just for YOU. <BR/><BR/>That means, there will be a great number of people who are left to suffer because YOUR god is picky about whom he helps out.<BR/><BR/>I asked you how that made you feel! (But you will not answer me, for some reason?)<BR/><BR/>Darlene:"I do not have the answers to any of this."<BR/><BR/>But, you stepped up to offer the unanswerable to someone else. That is your form of "help"!????<BR/><BR/>Why not answer me? Is Nisa the only person on here, worthy of your cause on here? <BR/><BR/>Darlene:"I was simply shareing my experience to Nisa of what I BELIEVE was supernatural."<BR/><BR/>Exactly. You explained a lot right there in one word for someone who doesn't have ANY answers. <BR/><BR/>You believe...and I don't. That does not mean you have to exclude me from your conversation does it?<BR/><BR/>Darlene, you are the one coming to THIS forum to freely share your fluffy feelings with the nice folks of this here web site. <BR/><BR/>Suddenly, no one is allowed to state their thoughts or share their feelings, just because YOU are here and you think you are offering hope to someone with your wishy-washy special story. <BR/><BR/>You are refusing to participate in an honest and intellectual discussion, while stomping your feet like a child because no one volunteered to be on your team!<BR/><BR/>I think you simply got mad because my views and questions do not support YOUR Christian beliefs. <BR/><BR/>Why not talk with me about my questions? It might benefit both of us. There is no need to run and hide, as we are both capable of sharing our feelings openly and honestly. I am an adult.<BR/><BR/>Darlene Declares:" However I will say this, does it make you feel good and tough putting down and attacking everyone who is a christian because of your bitter experiences or views? <BR/><BR/>Darlene, you are avoiding the questions by throwing out negative accusations, which I know to be completely FALSE. That is wrong.<BR/><BR/>I asked you HOW it could possibly feel right or good to receive exclusive divine help from a god that is totally denying his healing hand to others, and somehow I get thrown under your "bully" bus. <BR/><BR/>I said NOTHING negative about Christian people! Why are you acting so insecure? You are the blessed miracle child here. Where is your confidence in that?<BR/><BR/>I was trying to inquire more from you and I thought I could get YOU to maybe ask yourself these critical questions. <BR/><BR/>You should think about the ethical juxtaposition this god puts you in as a human being. Compare your answered prayers and extraordinary cures, to the unanswered hope of a teenager dying from brain cancer.<BR/><BR/>How about the way your story makes ME feel as a person. You don't know what I have experienced personally. <BR/><BR/>Maybe I feel excluded from your special divine healing club, denied access to this supernatural help, etc...But I don't.<BR/><BR/>It actually makes me ill to hear mindless people go on and on about how the vague mystical forces of the universe work for them, but for most...eh not so much.<BR/><BR/>The GOD who you alleged gives you special treatment is ALSO neglecting to provide basic needs for an entire nation of poverty and war stricken children. <BR/><BR/>Innocent children get NOTHING, while you get EVERYTHING. Burn victims are scoffed at. Missing a limb, well you are shit out of luck. You live by miracles...they live in desolation. Get my drift?<BR/><BR/>I do question the validity of your miracles and your god's existence, but I will not apologize for that. <BR/><BR/>Does that make me a bully? <BR/><BR/>No. It makes me an honest thinking person that is skeptical of the glazed over miracle stories that are all to often offered up as HELPFUL advice from exclusive people such as yourself. <BR/><BR/>When in reality, it offers NOTHING tangible to someone else whom may be in dire need for help and hope.<BR/><BR/>Darlene falsely accuses:<BR/>"Most people on here attack christians as if we are the ones who hurt you all so much."<BR/><BR/>No Darlene. You are projecting again. That is a very dishonest thing for you to do, once AGAIN. <BR/><BR/>That same superficial accusation is pathetically parroted by all the faithful cult heads. That is typical empty name calling. At least pick something original to spew out.<BR/><BR/>We come to this site to share our personal conflicts we had/have with Christian theology and all the other superstitions that are related to religious faith in general. <BR/><BR/>Yes, we do discuss everything openly and with great passion. I enjoy it and feel at home. You are free to express yourself, so I in turn expressed myself. That is usually how these forums and blogs work; Hence the name of this site, EX-christian.net.<BR/><BR/>Sorry that our open discussions quickly pisses off the few wandering faithful who happen to stumble into this site by chance. (sure ya do!) <BR/><BR/>Christians throwing a fit over our accusations exposes a big fact about their beliefs: Faith itself is a fragile and doubtful state of being, by its own definition.<BR/><BR/>BTW: No one in church hurt me. They lied to me a lot, but I harbor no anger towards the people. I avoid religions, cults, churches, and all superstitions because it does not offer me what I am seeking in life; simple as that.<BR/><BR/>Darlene:"I came to this site questioning christianity,"<BR/><BR/>No you did not! That is quite obvious, as your post proves the exact opposite. You have not questioned anything about christianity. <BR/><BR/>Be honest, and say you came here to see the freak show. You have thousands and thousands of churches waiting for you to serve them. That is your choice.<BR/><BR/>We have specifically disqualified the Christian church for very valid and personal reasons. <BR/><BR/>We have each other and this little website. Good grief. We are not bothering anyone, as in showing up to your churches to call the long winded preachers out on their Sunday sales pitch. <BR/><BR/>Darlene- Are you capable of offering up an olive twig to allow us to have our own place in this world where we DO FIT IN with others like ourselves. We are the odd ones out here, and we know it. <BR/><BR/>Does that make YOU feel better?<BR/><BR/>Please! Your special self does not need any help from any HUMAN here. Just ask your god to give you what you want and provide all the answers FOR YOU.<BR/><BR/>You clearly have confirmed that you are closed minded to any form of questioning. You did not come here seeking anything outside of your selfish little "god loves me more" box.<BR/><BR/>Darlene states:"this site has confirmed to me that christianity is a much better way of life"<BR/><BR/>OF COURSE you say that now! At last, the truth comes out! Now, you are playing Christian cloak and dagger!<BR/><BR/>Darlene, I truly hope this exchange between us leaves you thinking and questioning more and more. Religion is not the answer, in my opinion. Tried it, but it did not work for me.<BR/><BR/>I never wanted you to take your ball and run home. BUT, if your state of faith is that of an eggshell, maybe it would be better for you to stay on the sidelines and observe life from there. <BR/><BR/>As for me, put me in coach! <BR/>I am ready to learn and I promise to play fair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-4852928669121147542007-10-02T20:48:00.000-05:002007-10-02T20:48:00.000-05:00Darlen_ wrote:"...it is just a shame that a lot of...Darlen_ wrote:<BR/>"...it is just a shame that a lot of non christians do not give christians the liberty and respect they deserve,..."<BR/><BR/>...such as allowing them to write In God We Trust on everyone's currency? Such as inserting "...one nation, under God..." into everyone's pledge? The Xtian appetite for privilege is insatiable.<BR/><BR/>"...as these christians perhaps are non much worse [!] than the potty mouthed, critical, harsh, controlling, non christians..."<BR/><BR/>Ohhh, Magdalena / Nothing like the saint you are...eel_shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01658032217061343997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-8219141348835846732007-10-02T17:30:00.000-05:002007-10-02T17:30:00.000-05:00Darlene: Boomslang while you are wondering who Nit...Darlene: <I>Boomslang while you are wondering who Nita is, [I'll] wonder who Darlena is hey lol!</I><BR/><BR/>Touché!!(Um, obviously, "Darlena" went over your head)<BR/><BR/>Darlene: <I>Guys, like I said, I do not have the answers to any of this, I was simply [sharing] my experience to Nisa of what I believe [was] supernatural.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, yes, of course, but unfortunately for you, the Theist, people of ALL faiths chalk-up their "miraculous" personal experiences to their respective "Gods", which BTW, often times the experiences presumably point to entirely different deities than your own; entirely different faiths than your own. <BR/><BR/>Darlene cuts to the chase, with: <I>However I will say this, does it make you feel good and tough putting down and attacking everyone who is a christian because of your bitter experiences or views? Most people on here attack christians as if we are the ones who hurt you all so much.</I><BR/><BR/>***What we challenge, or "attack", is the Christian belief, <I>itself</I>. Now, before you disagree, notice that you are on an "EX-christian" website. Yoo hoo?.. hello??? Thus, yes, you may be attacked..the same way a beer vendor might be attacked at an A.A. meeting. 'Fair enough?<BR/><BR/>Darlene: <I>I came to this site questioning christianity, this site has confirmed to me that christianity is a much better way of life.</I><BR/><BR/>Really? The ten minutes you've spent here has confirmed it for you, eh? I think you are being disingenuous.<BR/><BR/>Darlene: <I>The hate that fills this site from non christians and the bitterness is amazing. I m glad to have found it as its answered a lot for me.</I><BR/><BR/>See here***above. Furthermore, if you are so offended by "hate", I wonder how you manage hating your own mother, father, siblings, and even your own life, as required by the bible, in order to be a "disciple" of Christ. 'Care to explain that? 'Listening.<BR/><BR/>Darlene: <I>For myself I am choosing to forgive those who have called themselves christians, yet fell short of the glory of God in behaving like them, for we are all sinners.</I><BR/><BR/>There are no "sinners", because there is no "sin". There is only what is unethical. To say, and encourage, that we are born broken, unworthy, and needy, is to stab a knife in the heart of what it means to be a human being. Nonetheless, I too, am trying my best to forgive the family and friends who planted and propagated a LIE in my head. It's not easy, trust me.<BR/><BR/>Darlene: <I>Anyhow we are all free to take liberty to believe as we desire and find too be true..</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, we are free to believe, or <I>not</I> believe, thanks to the Bill of Rights/constitution. Otherwise, we'd likely have a Theocracy on our hands. <BR/><BR/>Darlene: <I>...it is just a shame that a lot of non christians do not give christians the liberty and respect they deserve, as these christians perhaps are non much worse than the potty mouthed, critical, harsh, controlling, non christians who condemn the christians of the very same things</I><BR/><BR/>I'm curious, exactly who is telling you that you cannot believe whatever fantasies you want to believe? Exactly, how are you being "controlled" by non-theists? This, I've <I>got</I> to hear.boomSLANGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03820077215682328240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-69982023671630429942007-10-02T15:51:00.000-05:002007-10-02T15:51:00.000-05:00Hi Boomslang and Melissa,Boomslang while you are w...Hi Boomslang and Melissa,<BR/><BR/>Boomslang while you are wondering who Nita is, Ill wonder who Darlena is hey lol!<BR/><BR/>Guys, like I said, I do not have the answers to any of this, I was simply shareing my experience to Nisa of what I believe what supernatural. However I will say this, does it make you feel good and tough putting down and attacking everyone who is a christian because of your bitter experiences or views? Most people on here attack christians as if we are the ones who hurt you all so much.<BR/><BR/>I came to this site questioning christianity, this site has confirmed to me that christianity is a much better way of life. The hate that fills this site from non christians and the bitterness is amazing. I m glad to have found it as its answered a lot for me.<BR/>1) Religion is the problem and people, not true christianity and<BR/>2) That christians do seem like happier people than the bitter, angry non christians who never found healing and forgiveness<BR/>so thank you all.<BR/><BR/>For myself I am choosing to forgive those who have called themselves christians, yet fell short of the glory of God in behaving like them, for we are all sinners. Anyhow we are all free to take liberty to believe as we desire and find too be true, it is just a shame that a lot of non christians do not give christians the liberty and respect they deserve, as these christians perhaps are non much worse than the potty mouthed, critical, harsh, controlling, non christians who condemn the christians of the very same things<BR/> DarleneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-12784263875129672522007-10-02T14:37:00.000-05:002007-10-02T14:37:00.000-05:00Darlena,Did you know that good ol' fashioned duct ...Darlena,<BR/><BR/>Did you know that good ol' fashioned duct tape cures warts, too? Yes, it's true....and get this, it works on people of ALL faiths. Figure it out. <BR/><BR/>In the mean time, I have to admit that the "Yahweh wart-cure" is one of the more ridiculous arguments for a deity that I've ever heard. <BR/><BR/>And BTW, who the heck is "Nita", anyway?boomSLANGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03820077215682328240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-89624286177060649832007-10-02T02:25:00.000-05:002007-10-02T02:25:00.000-05:00Darlene,Everything in your "miracle" story just bo...Darlene,<BR/><BR/>Everything in your "miracle" story just bounced right over me or something. I read it again, and I just don't see it. What did I miss?<BR/><BR/>Where was the incredible evidence that supports your belief that this was a surpernatural intervention. Your gospel is far from simple.<BR/><BR/>In your miracle, your all powerful god secretively prescribe his black magic remedy for you, via a third party stranger, who came to you in your final hour of need. <BR/><BR/>Is that the bottom line?<BR/><BR/>How do you connect rubbing red meat on your face with a supernatural occurence of divine intervention? <BR/><BR/>If anything, this "person in the waiting room" offered you a natural cure, which actually may have originated in a superstitious cult like the African or Haitian Vodun. <BR/><BR/>Animal sacrifice anyone? Rub in the<BR/>Blood- for smooth and glowing skin!<BR/><BR/>WTF!What/Who/When/How...nothing.<BR/><BR/>I tried to identify the clear moment of your miraculous event. Instead, it was like reading in the fog while listening to a mass of crickets. <BR/><BR/>My problem with understanding miracles" is that it never offers:<BR/><BR/>1)Direct evidence for anything supernatural.<BR/><BR/>2)Similar accounts of the same exact miracle happening in SMALL/GREAT numbers, all at once.<BR/><BR/>3)Evidence that ONE particular God is responsible for ALL miracles. <BR/><BR/>Honest questions:<BR/><BR/>In your opinion, why does your god totally ignore other faithful people with similar types of problems. Why heal only you?<BR/><BR/>I know of a girl, a Junior at my son's high school, who developed severe acne around 13 and has suffered with it since. I'm rather sure that her family and their church have prayed over her, asking god to heal her. She is a bit shy, but really friendly, and she happens to be very Christian.<BR/><BR/>What is the explanation for such a cold indifference to MOST people's suffering, ignoring the majority of life on this planet, and yet this god delivers this simple NATURAL remedy only to YOU.<BR/><BR/>Doesn't that strike you as odd?<BR/><BR/>Your god LIMITS his healing to only those he deems worthy or special enough to help. <BR/><BR/>How does that make you feel being considered so special and all? <BR/><BR/>Like Wow Man! God mustlike you.<BR/><BR/>I guess this girl I know is just not praying hard enough, or maybe it's just not the right time for her, or maybe her church is calling out to the wrong god.<BR/><BR/>She waits for YOUR miracle to come her way, every single day. <BR/><BR/>Why only some and not all?<BR/><BR/>Why is this God so persnickety and selective with his healing ways? <BR/><BR/>Examine that, please. Seriously.<BR/><BR/>Why would a god only chooses to give out skin care advice, or more importantly, a vast wave of complete healing for ALL of his "created babes" on Earth. <BR/><BR/>Fix everyone, not this particular one, or that special one. ALL OF US! Pray for that, would ya!<BR/><BR/>If I were an all powerful god, I would show up for work everyday and love to the fact that I can heal EVERYONE. I would WANT to meet and talk and laugh and be WITH the people who spend their life following me and loving me for all the healing I give them. <BR/><BR/>I would teach others how to have my healing powers, and I would limit them to only doing good. I would short circuit the human need for anything bad or negative. I would not give anyone free choice, only positive choice. My creation would care for each other, because I made them this way for a greater purpose. <BR/>It's called Peace. <BR/>End of story.<BR/><BR/>But I, am not a god.<BR/><BR/>IF I had millions of dollars, I would hire a dermatologist to help that girl treat her acne and rid her of her scars.<BR/><BR/>Now, IF that same dermatologist recommended the same type of treatment that you described above, as white lights shined behind her...then maybe you might be on to something. <BR/><BR/>BUT, even then, I still would not qualify it as a supernatural intervention. It is still, a man made cure.<BR/><BR/>So, do you think this girl will have her prayers answered before she starts her freshman year in college? <BR/><BR/>Since you have a high speed god connection, could you put in a good word for her with your god? <BR/><BR/>Oh, and please ask him to get busy using those special powers he allegedly has, and stop hording all those benefits for himself and his chosen few.<BR/><BR/>That girl will wake up tomorrow and still have acne. That is her reality, at least until some human (without wings) comes along to help her out, just like the person that came your way and helped you heal yourself!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-34116219237742254262007-10-01T16:38:00.000-05:002007-10-01T16:38:00.000-05:00Hi Nita,Although like you, I am questioning a few ...Hi Nita,<BR/><BR/>Although like you, I am questioning a few things myself, some things in my life I cannot deny as to the reality I have experienced of the supernatural.<BR/><BR/>When I was pregnant with my first born son, 7 weeks into the pregnancy I was haveing very sharp pains located where my right ovary is. My doctor sent me straight for an ultrasound, and they after it called the doctor and sent me back there emmediately. The doctor told me that they had discovered that I had an ectopic pregnancy, the baby was growing in my right ovary, my womb was empty and I must go straight to the hospital for an emergency operation as it was life threatening. Ectopic pregnancies are incurable and it is impossible for the baby to move once in the fallopian tubes or in the ovaries. <BR/><BR/>Devastated, my husband and myself broke the news on the way to the hospital to our family, who prayed for us and I personally made a promise to the Lord that if he decided to save my child that I would raise him up in the admonishon of the Lord for His service, neverhterless not my will but thine will be done.<BR/><BR/>At the hospital more scans were done by the proffessor confirming the location etc of the baby and the operation went underway after saying goodbye to my baby. I awoke from the operation, hysterical for the child i knew i was to lose. The nurse came over telling me to calm down and that my baby was fine. After asking ho this could be, she said that they dont know themselves as it is impossible, but somehow the baby relocated itself to the womb. Now if that was not a miracle I dont know what is, as now my son is 10 years old and requesting baptism!<BR/><BR/>Another miracle I had Nita which I believe is of supernatural origin, is that when I was 12 years old, For the past few years I felt extremely ugly,as I had big fat ugly warts all over my hands, knees and get this, even my chin and nose , yep i looked great! I had tried everything to get rid of them from peeing on them, banana skins, rubbing them on frogs, chopping them off, only to regrow, wart lotion you name it I tried it but to no avail. At 12 though I was really upset as I was soon to enter highschool, and did not want to look like the wicked witch of the east so I started praying that God would take them before highschool. About a week before I was to begin, mum (an athiest) took me to the doctor in order to get them frozen off) bout time too i thought!. In the waiting room, an old man approached me and upon telling him my dilema he insisted that i do not get them frozen off, but instead to go home and rub some red, raw meat with the blood in it on the warts and then to go outside and bury the meat. If ever i heard nonsense this took the cake, yet something about the man intrigued me so I told mum I was going to give this a try. <BR/><BR/>I told he doc, forget it and i did what the old man said. Nothing happened that day and forgetting all about it went to bed. I woke up that morning, went to the toilet, reached for the loo paper and started screaming. Family came racing over assuming i must be about to die or something. I leaped off the toilet, running around, screaming. MY WARTS HAD VANISHED! No bull! not one single trace of any were to be seen. Even my athiest parents were dumbfounded. <BR/><BR/>Not knowing if this was a miracle or not, later as an adult i prayed for light on the matter. I opened the bible and it was like scales dropped off my eyes for everywhere I turned it spoke of the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world, and that by his blood we are healed and that the baptism is a burial of our old sinful life and the coins started dropping. God was showing me that the lamb, I rubbed on my warts was symbolic of the lamb of God who takes away my sin, and i was washed clean in the blood of the lamb, and that my sins were now dead and buried. My warts(sin) is put on the innocent lamb and buried for ever!! praise the Lord. I have more to tell but my fingers hurt.<BR/><BR/>Nita, some things are confuseing and hurtful in our life and we cant make sense of and it seems outright unfair, but I cannot deny the existence of God and the reality of these miracles in my own Life. Some things I am learning we try to complicate but the gospel is very simple<BR/><BR/>GBU in your search<BR/> DarleneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-63312273803616212422007-09-29T23:16:00.000-05:002007-09-29T23:16:00.000-05:00Jhony, get stuffed. In my opinion there is not an...Jhony, get stuffed. In my opinion there is not and could not be (one and only one god). There are many gods, or there are none at all.<BR/><BR/>I think the Qur'an is at least as idiotic and violent as the Bible.<BR/><BR/>And I "submit" to no god. Not even to Myself. (What is it with this submission stuff, anyway? Is your "true god" so insecure in its divinity that it needs human worshippers to debase themselves?)<BR/><BR/>May you one day see reason and live the rest of your life without a religious addiction. In the meantime... TURN THE FRIGGIN' CAPS LOCK OFF!Astrejahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11240778939571936166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-30687317694025584342007-09-29T02:49:00.000-05:002007-09-29T02:49:00.000-05:00Jhony wrote:DO NOT BE WORRY. DONT CONFUSE!......(B...Jhony wrote:<BR/>DO NOT BE WORRY. DONT CONFUSE!<BR/>......(BAN THE BIBLE FROM ALL OF YOUR LIFE, CHOOSE QUR'AN ALL SETLE)<BR/>BEST REAGRD jhoni tondano <BR/>----<BR/>Hey Jhon-boy,<BR/>Okay, now that I'm done laughing my butt off after reading these post of yours, let me say this.<BR/><BR/>We already have several token xtian trolls, and assuming our long-standing troll marc hasn't converted to being a muslim, I have to assume by your post that you want to be our new favorite muslim troll?<BR/><BR/>Of course, you must meet the same strict requirements as our other favorite trolls, that we hold so dear to our hearts.<BR/><BR/>1. You must try and prove to us that your Allah god is the real god, but fail horribly in the process of trying.<BR/><BR/>2. You must insist that your "QUR'AN" is the holiest of holy books on the planet. I suspect you'll easily meet this one....that is to say, the INSISTING part.<BR/><BR/>3. Your spelling and grammar must be up to par with the majority of our xtian trolls. Not to worry, you met this one already.<BR/><BR/>4. If you're looking for 72 virgins to screw, try this site......Virgins-Not-Even-Allah-Would-Touch.YUK<BR/><BR/>5. Last but not least, you must wear your muslim troll costume while posting here.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sign on the dotted line below and email to the webmaster<BR/><BR/>---------------------------<BR/><BR/>ATF (who never discriminates between xtian and muslim trolls)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-11558071657052975812007-09-28T23:06:00.000-05:002007-09-28T23:06:00.000-05:00DO NOT BE WORRY. DONT CONFUSE!ONE SINGLE AND SIMPL...DO NOT BE WORRY. DONT CONFUSE!<BR/>ONE SINGLE AND SIMPLE THING !!<BR/> BELIEVE IN ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD, THE ALMIGHTY ONE, WHO CREATE YOU AND ALL UNIVERSE !<BR/>AND LIVE ALL TO THE TRUE GOD, HE WILL GUIDE YOU ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHTWAY, TOTAL SUBMISSION TO HIM<BR/>WE CAN NOT KLNOWING HIM IN, BUT WE KNEW ALL HIS ALMIGHTY CREATIONS ONLY (BAN THE BIBLE FROM ALL OF YOUR LIFE, CHOOSE QUR'AN ALL SETLE)<BR/>BEST REAGRD jhoni tondanoAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10245485814772222004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-37406696985839435112007-09-15T01:22:00.000-05:002007-09-15T01:22:00.000-05:00Nisa said: "as i was about to jump i felt as if so...Nisa said: "as i was about to jump i felt as if someone was "holding me back""<BR/>---<BR/>Hi All,<BR/><BR/>The experience Nisa had here, has had me thinking for days now about similar experiences that other folks who are no longer xtians, had while they were still xtians.<BR/><BR/>Let's suppose one was in a situation that Nisa was, where your life was in immediate peril, either from your own hand, or even some external event beyond your own control.<BR/>Let's then suppose that one felt it was the hand of the xtian god himself, putting a direct stop to the action that would take your life. <BR/>In Nisa's case, she felt some THING was 'holding her back', but was it really the xtian god at work here.<BR/><BR/>Putting aside (for sake of argument) that this saving 'force' many have felt, was not some unknown supernatural force, or the force of some non-xtian god at work, then that would leave the xtian god's hand as the one keeping a person from dying.<BR/><BR/>Now, if while you're a xtian and you tried to kill yourself, and at that moment you attributed the force that saved you to being the hand of this xtian god, it then begs the question of WHY god would save you.<BR/><BR/>Obvioulsy many folks and many xtians, land up killing themselves at their own hand and god didn't stop them, yet someone like Nisa here gets stopped cold. <BR/><BR/>Now it might make sense for the xtian god to stop one of his own life-long believers from killing themselves, but what do we now say about all the EX-Christians that had this experience of god saving them, only to later lose their faith in this very same god.<BR/><BR/>God being an entity that can see the future, surely would have known the person he was saving, would in time just turn their backs on god, would he not?<BR/><BR/>If god doesn't seem to answer prayers of even his own flock and leaders, then what would prompt this god to save a xtian from killing themselves, if he already knows they will become ex-xtians in 'short' time.<BR/><BR/>He already knows he's about to lose this follower, so why single out this person to save, yet allow many self-proclaimed true xtians to die at either their own hand, or by circumstances beyond their own control.<BR/><BR/>Why does such an odd selectivity prevail in god's ways?<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I know the xtian answer....God works in mysterious ways and we can't know his ways.<BR/>But I have another answer here......There is no god going around saving folks. Either they save themselves or it's just chance that kept them alive.<BR/><BR/><BR/>AtheistToothFairyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-59274395984205621052007-09-13T07:56:00.000-05:002007-09-13T07:56:00.000-05:00ibrakel said..."I believe there are good supernatu...ibrakel said...<BR/><BR/>"I believe there are good supernatural beings and also bad ones. However, I can't prove their existence because it takes even higher power than them to prove it."<BR/><BR/>NO....NO...Nooo!<BR/><BR/>It does NOT take an even "higher power" to prove the existance of supernatural beings. It takes good evidence to prove that they exist. Something like, a christian raising someone from the dead because she invoked the name of jesus. Or a burning bush that speaks. You know, something that is obvious that science can't explain. A real kicker would be if benny hinn prayed for an amputees arm to grow back on live tv and it did! <BR/><BR/>"...Neither can anyone prove that they don't exist."<BR/><BR/>It is the one who claims a suprnatural, extra-fantastical, ultra-powerful being exists, that needs to bring the evidence for its existence. Like if I said that I had sex with bigfoots alien daughter. You wouldn't need to prove that aliens and bigfoot don't exist to not believe it. You would, rightfully, require me to come up with some good evidence that I did what I claimed to do with the being I claimed to do it with. <BR/><BR/>"... I believe your conscience should be able to tell which is good and which is bad, as far as your experiences are concerned."<BR/><BR/>On this we agree. No need to refer to bronze age texts or some "higher power" to tell us what is good and what is bad.TheJaytheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05113302693328504558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-15379185813782745032007-09-13T00:30:00.000-05:002007-09-13T00:30:00.000-05:00Hi Nisa,In addition to my previous post, I would l...Hi Nisa,<BR/><BR/>In addition to my previous post, I would like to share my viewpoint on your question about supernatural being as well.<BR/><BR/>I believe there are good supernatural beings and also bad ones. However, I can't prove their existence because it takes even higher power than them to prove it. Neither can anyone prove that they don't exist.<BR/><BR/>I believe experiences are not always reliable but I also believe there are reasons and purposes behind them. Again, I believe your conscience should be able to tell which is good and which is bad, as far as your experiences are concerned.<BR/><BR/>Thank you very much for your sharing and my appreciation to you on this, especially your seeking the truth.<BR/><BR/>IbrakelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-91426364364815547952007-09-12T15:10:00.000-05:002007-09-12T15:10:00.000-05:00Hi Nisa,First, please---I implore you to disregard...Hi Nisa,<BR/><BR/>First, please---I implore you to disregard the advice given to you by our Christian guest, "Ibrakel". <BR/><BR/>Since you have obviously decided to be brave and "get real"; since you are obviously asking honest questions based on reality, then guess what?....then you deserve answers from people who have decided to <I>get real</I> and who <I>live in reality</I>. To state the obvious---this is an EX-christian website, so naturally, you won't find "answers in Jesus", here. What's important, is that you are questioning, seemingly, objectively......which is a start. That said--and with the exemplary post above mine--you are hopefully starting to see that the only "slaves", are slaves to <I>ignorance</I>. <BR/><BR/>Moreover, and to the heart of the matter---I've known, personally, three individuals who have been in your shoes as far as "reaching the end of their wits", and these people chose suicide as well, but obviously, they didn't get that feeling that "something was holding them back"..why? because they're dead now. The irony is, all three believed in the Christian biblegod, two attending religious services regularly. <BR/><BR/>So this clearly illustrates a couple of things I'd like you to consider: <BR/><BR/>1) Belief in a supernatural being and living a fulfilled happy life are not...<I>repeat</I>, ARE NOT mutually inclusive, nor will belief in such beings thwart, or resolve, feelings of depression and/or suicide. <BR/><BR/>2) If "Jesus" did not make his presence known at this obviously very dark time in these people's lives--and THOUSANDS more who also commit suicide--then either "Jesus" does not care, or "Jesus" does not exist. Either way, "Jesus" is utterly useless.<BR/><BR/>If you still feel there is a "higher power" in spite of what anyone says, then fine. But please, when/if times get rough, seek help from people who you can actually see and interact with. There are trained professionals waiting to help, and the better news is, they won't incinerate you should you for some reason not choose their services. <BR/><BR/>Best regards, boom'boomSLANGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03820077215682328240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-34892851014034687172007-09-12T10:08:00.000-05:002007-09-12T10:08:00.000-05:00Hello Nisa,I am sorry to hear your suffering as we...Hello Nisa,<BR/><BR/>I am sorry to hear your suffering as well as your attempt to suicide.<BR/><BR/>I really would like to ask you what the purpose of your life is. I believe you could have lived much happier. Have you tried to ask yourself what is good and what is bad? Have you ever tried to make up your mind to do good? I believe you will feel happy and will enjoy from it when you do good. I believe that you can make it. Try to be honest to your conscience all the time.<BR/><BR/>Do you believe in Jesus? Do you believe that He loves you and died for your sins. Would you repond to Jesus love by turning away from everything which you know it is wrong? Jesus saves us from our sins if we repent. We get free and quit being slaves of sin.<BR/><BR/>I hope you may ultimately realise the meaning and purpose of life!<BR/><BR/>Peace and grace from Jesus to you!<BR/><BR/>IbrakelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-14040619290230572272007-09-12T09:06:00.000-05:002007-09-12T09:06:00.000-05:00xrayman, I have to clear something up. Sadly, I am...xrayman, I have to clear something up. Sadly, I am a former runner turned biker. But I still put the same efforts into biking that I once put into running. I ran for close to 30 years and would still be running if I were able. However, age and other problems led me to biking. <BR/><BR/>I do miss running but the biking works to relieve stress and gives a great workout as well. It just takes longer to get the same benefits, if you are trying to burn calories. I usually ride about 25 to 30 miles at 17 to 19 mph and I try to get in at least 5 days of workouts. I also dig for artifacts and that helps keep me in shape as well.<BR/><BR/>You mentioned the heat. We had 14 days in August that topped 100 degrees or more. Made me glad I was biking and not running. <BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work! Jim EarlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-43279641034759602662007-09-11T22:44:00.000-05:002007-09-11T22:44:00.000-05:00Hello Nisa,I have never been addicted to drugs or ...Hello Nisa,<BR/>I have never been addicted to drugs or alcohol. I have never tried to kill myself or ever wanted too. But I was a christian and brainwashed. Since leaving the "cult", I have never been any happier. That is hard to believe since I have always been very cheerful. I have no advice for you, I just hope that things work out no matter what you choose.<BR/>FarrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-76987438591630083802007-09-11T15:51:00.000-05:002007-09-11T15:51:00.000-05:00Hey Jim Earl. I am a fellow runner and I now consi...Hey Jim Earl. I am a fellow runner and I now consider my running and workout routine as my religion. I am so obsessive compulsive about it. I was training in the 95 degree heat last month and that was a spiritual experience my friend. I love pushing the body to the limit. I too used to chit chat with God on the run, asking for stregnth and all that bullshit, but now I just sing along to the music on my player. I think it works better.<BR/><BR/>xraymanBill Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13762907298977812596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-80105838340889587722007-09-11T10:00:00.000-05:002007-09-11T10:00:00.000-05:00Nisa, the last comments by Bill,(x-ray man), Bovia...Nisa, the last comments by Bill,(x-ray man), Boviator, and Dan brought back some memories I want to share.<BR/><BR/>Back when I was a follower, I had a running buddy that said "Thank you Jesus" every time we finished a training run. I would say "Thank you Lord" even though I didn't really believe that I was getting any special help from above. Running hurt and I accepted the pain that went along with the activity.<BR/><BR/>After losing my faith, I continued to run and discovered that I felt no pain difference from when I was a follower. The level of pain did not change. The only change came about with more training.<BR/><BR/>I believe it's the same with any other activity, being strong enough to stop bad behavior such as drinking, smoking etc., is there for us. We have to believe in ourselves first, and have the confidence that we can stop doing anything we really want to stop. That confidence comes from within, not from above. <BR/><BR/>Trust and have confidence in yourself first, and you will find that you can do anything you want to do. It's that simple. Try it for yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424478.post-88287561596469277812007-09-11T09:00:00.000-05:002007-09-11T09:00:00.000-05:00Hi Nisa,I just want to let you know that I too hav...Hi Nisa,<BR/><BR/>I just want to let you know that I too have been in that place, wanting to die, many times in my life: mostly when I was a christian and then following my divorce. <BR/><BR/>I am glad you are reaching out. I appreciate the way you ask about the mind's abilities. I agree, of course, that the mind does have the power to create such feelings and experiences. For me, it has been comforting when I consider that if it is powerful enough to create some of the "supernatural" experiences I had, then it is also powerful enough to help me create the life I want. <BR/><BR/>I wish you all the best.glassdragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17878781081033044348noreply@blogger.com